For argument sake, okay. Now she has no transportation. What now?

Payroll tax holidays = cuts to your grammies SS next year. Buy a cot with the money because she'll be moving in.

She had no transportation before so, she either gets a person in the dealership that wants to sell her what she needs or she's out of luck.

The problem is the dealership doesn't want to sell her what she needs even though they have it and just sold it to her last time.

The dealership being McConnell's Used Car Specials. Very apt annalogy btw.

I have two questions It's Hot.

1. Why do Republican legislators hate America so much ? (they just refuse to give American citizens what other citizens of much lesser countries take for granted).

2. Why do American citizens who aren't wealthy ever vote for them since they're held in obvious disdain by them. (I get that all politicians are con artists by definition but if they constantly make a fool out of you why not save face and stop voting for them ?)

Take our current crisis for example. Other countries are getting through it with better health outcomes AND better economic outcomes. Just by doing things like the Dems are proposing. Why don't the R's just do it and help their voters out ? And why will their voters allow them to screw them in their time of need ? Because gay marriage ? lol. I mean really...is it that dumb ?

Are we allowed to make assumptions about whether this poster is operating in good faith?

They just don't understand how capitalism really works. If we do any of that kinda stuff all the rich people will leave!! They always forget to remind us that once this place is sucked completely dry--they can leave too

Thing is, I refrain from saying the left hates America despite vehemently disagreeing with their ideological driven ideas that I believe do more harm than good, because I try not to judge their motivations. You think small government is evil, you think not spending money is evil. I can't help you with that. That's just a failure of critical thinking and an indication of partisan rhetoric. You've bought into a talking point that thinks conservatives are evil and hate people. It's not that you ascribe no morality to classical economics, and put a righteousness on keynesian ideas, it's that you are ascribing immorality to classical economics. You think it's a moral argument, when it's one of economics.

When you ask a question like that, that's like asking someone whether or not their mom knows they are gay, while ignoring that being gay isn't immoral, when in fact morality has nothing to do with being gay. You guys are always talking about ulterior motives...it's bullshit, it's just a baseless ad hominem.

lol as someone taking an honest statement as an indication of "bad faith".

Which is better to think conservatives have an ulterior motive like greed via corruption or to think that they are just really stupid?

Also to stay on topic. Looks like trumps executive orders appear to actually be 1 eo and two memos that don’t actually do anything.

And the eo is attempting to force states to cover 25% of the unemployment which I don’t believe is legal by executive order. So ya. Good talking point at his presser I guess

It's only illegal if Trump isn't a dictator.

So you have no answer as to why your representatives don't have your back ?


You know this is an actual crisis right ?
People are dying and many will soon be living on the street and it's 100% preventable.

Why can't we think both ?

he actually explained it well. protecting people. giving them proper care and treatment for this crisis. giving them a place to live. giving them compensation so they can eat and exist.

he thinks that stuff will do more harm than good. he would much prefer millions of starving homeless people without health care during a pandemic.

stupid or cruel I dont think it really matters.

life ain't fair huh

all these stupid people in positions of power winning

then we have geniuses like you sitting at home posting how stupid everyone is lol

so everyone should have a house and food at the minimum?

What a backwards way to look at it.

Democrats bill is not meaningless. It sets the anchor that they want to help the 99%.

Yeah they are holding out until Republican give more to the people. If **** fails people will blame Republican for being selfish stingy rich dudes who only want to spend money on wall-street instead of the people who needs it most.

No one thinks small gov or not spending evil. You bought in to these Republican talking points?

The Republicans only has one goal that is to make their rich 1% donors richer. Everything they do is to achieve that goal. This includes pretending to be for small gov and little spending, except when they want to bailout big corps. Guess who owns these corps? Yeah their 1% donors. They say they're against socialism, but actually they're only against socialism for the poor. They loooove socialism for the rich.

Anyone who is a republican who is not filthy rich is brainwashed to vote against their self interest.

You all can ***** and moan about Republicans, I don't even want that conversation. I'm not going to continue to defend them. The fact of the matter is, Pelosi's bill has zero support among Republicans, and you need Republicans to get a deal done. No matter how greedy or evil they are, the Democrats need them to pass their uncompromising demands.

No that's ludicrous.

Everyone should have a house (or apartment) food education transportation electricity water heat internet health care.

Everyone in the richest country the world has ever known should have food, shelter, clothing and basic health care.

I'm not sure why so many people who are one small setback away from having none of those things disagree with that.

But here we are.

That's not true. The ACA was passed despite the whining and kicking and screaming from the republicans (who authored the bill in the first place).

It looks to me like Pelosi has finally figured out the game.
Don't give them an inch, ever. They don't govern in good faith so you have to treat them like the bad actors they are.

Good for her. Normally she's as big a part of the problem as anyone in DC but this time she's playing her cards right.

Sure it's short term terrible for Americans if the GOP causes another Great Depression but if it flips the senate and WH and we get a few decent laws enacted long term it could be a big win for the country.

When your party stands for nothing but BS talking points and then has to deal with reality it doesn't end well. Does it ?

Because it appears Democratic legislators have even more disdain for them. Whether true or not, the perception is that Democrats only care about poor minorities, and their objective is to transfer wealth from poor whites to poor minorities.

Now I understand this is due to messaging by Fox News et al. But the Democrats aren't really doing themselves any favors with their race-centric focus. At some point when all you can talk about is race and providing more resources to minorities, the logical conclusion is that is really the only people they care about.

for free?

How big should the house be?

How much food should they get?

Also why should this be the baseline?

I'm honestly curious at your thoughts.