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All these attacks to each other and posting about each other instead of the thread topic are getting out of control. I plan to delete any further posts like this and maybe ban the poster to keep this from being too much work. You don't have to like each other, but this has to end now.

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10-14-2023 , 06:35 PM

#152

Victor

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Originally Posted by BOIDS

three blokes in a siberian gulag

one asks the other two why they were sent here

'because i spoke against the works of Dr Kuznetsov'

the first bloke replies: 'that's strange, i am here because i spoke in favour of the works of Dr Kuznetsov!'

they both turn to the third bloke

'i am Dr Kuznetsov'

Nice

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10-14-2023 , 06:51 PM

#153

DonkJr

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Originally Posted by d2_e4

So you basically trust stats coming out of a commie country, produced by commies, to make communism look good? Sick critical thinking skills, bro.

Life expectancy goes up year on year with advances in medicine. It has always been thus and has nothing to do with communism. Do you also credit communism with invention of the 4 stroke engine? Electricity? Transistors?

In addition to these very obvious points, WW2 and the Chinese Civil War ended right before that spike in life expectancy.

Here is life expectancy in Taiwan since 1950. Higher than China from beginning to end. Anti-Communism FTW???

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10-14-2023 , 07:35 PM

#154

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Originally Posted by d2_e4

the poster you are responding to probably believes that N. Korea didn't have a Covid case until May, 2022.

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10-14-2023 , 11:03 PM

#155

campfirewest

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Originally Posted by BOIDS

Two prisoners are talking in a Soviet gulag...

One says: "We're really cut off from the news here. For instance, I never found out the result of the Fischer-Spassky chess match."

The other one replies: "Oh, I lost."

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10-14-2023 , 11:05 PM

#156

NittyOldMan1

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stalin, pol pot, mao, castro - the real Mt Rushmore!

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10-14-2023 , 11:09 PM

#157

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everyone thinks theyd be the artist, philosopher, or leader in the Communist utopia. The fact of the matter most people are useless eaters who'd be lined up against the wall. because most people are indeed useless.

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10-15-2023 , 12:13 AM

#158

BrianTheMick2

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Originally Posted by TeflonDawg

I have a question:

USA has done quite well for itself in its existence, capitalism ftw

My question is how much of this success should be attributed to being buffered by two gigantic oceans?

28.374%.

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10-15-2023 , 12:45 AM

#159

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Originally Posted by Victor

by every metric those countries massively improved.
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are you familiar with the concept of a comparison group in longitudinal designs, to distinguish effects of interest from confounding variables such as time?

if not, you are falling into the same fallacy used by people touting ivermectin to treat Covid, in which they claim that feeling better after taking it is proof that it works.

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10-15-2023 , 02:08 AM

#160

d2_e4

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Originally Posted by NittyOldMan1

Victor is not interested in anything that interferes with his ability to push propaganda that supports his blinkered view of reality. Facts and truth are of little interest or use to Victor.

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10-15-2023 , 04:32 AM

#161

DonkJr

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Life expectancy in Cambodia. Hmmm, I wonder what was happening in 1978, where the life expectancy dropped to 14.49 years. I just can't put my finger on it. Victor, can you help me out here, please?

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10-15-2023 , 04:42 AM

#162

d2_e4

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Wtf, holy smokes. Life expectancy < 15.

That can't be real communism then, life expectancy only goes up under real communism, comrade. Well, at least for those who don't speak out against communism.

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10-15-2023 , 04:44 AM

#163

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ivan goes into a shop

'do you have meat'

'no'

'do you have fish'

'we are a butchers shop, we only deal with meat. it is the fishmongers across the road that has no fish'

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10-15-2023 , 05:18 AM

#164

d2_e4

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Originally Posted by BOIDS

ivan goes into a shop

'do you have meat'

'no'

'do you have fish'

'we are a butchers shop, we only deal with meat. it is the fishmongers across the road that has no fish'

Ivan goes into a shop.

'Got any oranges?'

'No.'

Next day he comes back.

'Got any oranges yet?'

'No.'

Third day.

'Any oranges yet?'

'No, and if you keep asking for ****ing oranges, I am going to nail you to the ****ing wall'

'Got any nails?'

'No.'

'What about oranges?'

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10-15-2023 , 05:29 AM

#165

d2_e4

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A muscovite goes to a kiosk and buys a newspaper. He glances at it in disgust and throws it in the bin. Same again the next day, and for the whole week.

Finally curiosity gets the better of the vendor and he asks the man: 'why do you keep doing that?'

'I'm looking for an obituary.'

'But obituaries aren't on the front page.'

'The one I'm looking for will be.'

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10-15-2023 , 06:41 AM

#166

BOIDS

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'i have been attending cooking classes for the last two years'

'has your cooking improved?'

'not really. so far we're only up to the bit about Liu Shaoqi's attendance at the 19th CSPU'

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10-15-2023 , 08:23 AM

#167

Victor

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Originally Posted by DonkJr

Who ended the Pol Pot regime? Who backed it?

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10-15-2023 , 08:25 AM

#168

d2_e4

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Yep, not real communism. You heard it here first, folks.

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10-15-2023 , 08:39 AM

#169

Victor

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We should do numbers in Europe during the World Wars. Lemme guess, not real capitalism amirite.

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10-15-2023 , 08:50 AM

#170

d2_e4

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Originally Posted by Victor

We should do numbers in Europe during the World Wars. Lemme guess, not real capitalism amirite.

Ah, a nice non sequitur to put the final nail in the coffin of your failpoint. You never fail to deliver.

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10-15-2023 , 10:57 AM

#171

DonkJr

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Originally Posted by Victor

We should do numbers in Europe during the World Wars. Lemme guess, not real capitalism amirite.

Is this your retort? Seriously? YOU are the one that flouts these before-and-after life expectancy numbers as your grand argument as to why Communism is superior. This is the best you can do? You really didn't think somebody would look up the other communist countries?

I'm honestly disappointed. I expected much more.

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10-15-2023 , 12:24 PM

#172

Victor

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its not a grand argument. I am trying to establish the facts which your side has largely yet to acknowledge, instead opting for "but what about Pol Pot" and "communism killed a gajillion people".

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Originally Posted by NittyOldMan1

this is an example of a what to actually consider.

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10-15-2023 , 12:51 PM

#173

BOIDS

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stalin and roosevelt are having a chat

roosevelt: we have free speech in the USA. a man can stand outside the white house and exclaim that president roosevelt is an idiot, and he will remain a free man

stalin: why, comrade, we also have free speech in the soviet union. a man can stand outside the kremlin and exclaim that president roosevelt is an idiot, and he too will remain a free man

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10-15-2023 , 12:57 PM

#174

NittyOldMan1

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Originally Posted by Victor

this is an example of a what to actually consider.

if so you should acknowledge you are committing the same fallacy with your argument about life expectancy and communism, otherwise you are nothing more than a hypocritical ideologue.

i posted that example because i believe many points of view are taken without any proper logic to them, regardless of political affiliation.