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02-28-2021 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
A mark is an easy target

it's also a unit of currency
Okay, now I get it! Thanks!
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02-28-2021 , 02:08 PM
There is an old expression lagtight.

'when you look around the room and are unaware who the mark is...

... be weary of d2_e4'
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02-28-2021 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
There is an old expression lagtight.

'when you look around the room and are unaware who the mark is...

... be weary of d2_e4'


There was a show here while back called The Real Hustle, where the presenters, who were real-life ex-scammers and con-men, went around scamming members of the public, then explaining how the scam worked (they returned the money afterwards). I think it was probably mostly staged, but a touch that I liked was that one of the guys would usually introduce himself to the victim as "Rob Marks".
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02-28-2021 , 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4


There was a show here while back called The Real Hustle, where the presenters, who were real-life ex-scammers and con-men, went around scamming members of the public, then explaining how the scam worked (they returned the money afterwards). I think it was probably mostly staged, but a touch that I liked was that one of the guys would usually introduce himself to the victim as "Rob Marks".
Why'd he use that name?

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02-28-2021 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Proffett
Why'd he use that name?

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Clearly lol. We've just spent the last few posts explaining it to lagtight.
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02-28-2021 , 03:49 PM
Ain't I a stinker?

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
How'd you like The Bell Curve?
The most brilliant book ever written. It's like the bible except better somehow.

If you could combine the best Kobe steak with the most transcendent psychedelic experience ever imagined, and somehow put that on paper, the result would be "The Bell Curve". I'm hoping that Christopher Nolan turns it into a movie.
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02-28-2021 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4


There was a show here while back called The Real Hustle, where the presenters, who were real-life ex-scammers and con-men, went around scamming members of the public, then explaining how the scam worked (they returned the money afterwards). I think it was probably mostly staged, but a touch that I liked was that one of the guys would usually introduce himself to the victim as "Rob Marks".
Ohh cool.

I see some episodes are available on YouTube.

I like that type of thing and it is raining here today so I will give the first episode a watch.

I read the wiki, so see the info on the staged episodes.
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02-28-2021 , 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
Ohh cool.

I see some episodes are available on YouTube.

I like that type of thing and it is raining here today so I will give the first episode a watch.

I read the wiki, so see the info on the staged episodes.
Then again, that a series about scammers is staged is only fitting.
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02-28-2021 , 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
Ohh cool.

I see some episodes are available on YouTube.

I like that type of thing and it is raining here today so I will give the first episode a watch.

I read the wiki, so see the info on the staged episodes.
You might also like Hustle, which was the fictional series the title of the show is referencing.
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02-28-2021 , 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by tame_deuces
Then again, that a series about scammers is staged is only fitting.
Quite. Not only that, but the outcry about it from the audience was quite hilarious. I mean, these guys literally told you they were scammers, and you liked it when they showed you how to scam other people... and now you're upset because you realised that you were the mark.

Speaks volumes as to human nature. I could literally walk up to maybe 75%+ of people I've ever met in a pub and say "hello, I am a scam artist, help me scam that guy over there and there's a £100 in it for you", and they'd play along, not realising they're the mark.

I think the lesson here is "when people tell you who they are, believe them".

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02-28-2021 , 06:01 PM
Nice, thx. Hustle is free to watch on YouTube as well.

Funny I never really look to YouTube to watch series. Always check my Amazon Prime or Netflix and then more (cough) questionable download websites.
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02-28-2021 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
I think the lesson here is "when people tell you who they are, believe them".
This is why politics gives me agita.
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02-28-2021 , 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by RFlushDiamonds
This is why politics gives me agita.
I did not know the word "agita". I thought you made it up but I looked it up and it's real for sure. Not a wasted day after all, down a couple of k on the poker, but learnt something new!

This might be the first time I've learnt a new word from reading these fora, erm, forums. Although, having said that, I imagine either well named or OrP said something over the years that I had to look up. Regardless, you're in good company.

Edit: I also feel rather agitated (see what I did there?) that it is not a plural of "agitum", at least according to dictionary.com.

Edit2: Actually, in this very thread, OrP used the word "defeasible", the meaning of which I could infer both from etymology and context, but I had not heard it before so I looked it up for good measure.

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03-01-2021 , 12:08 AM
so given the direction of the thread it appears pretty much settled lol Capitalism.

but just in case anyone isnt convinced yet.



lol at not being a communist by now.
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03-01-2021 , 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
lol at not being a communist by now.
Because, ya know, there's no choices out there but communism or American-style capitalism.
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03-01-2021 , 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
I did not know the word "agita". I thought you made it up but I looked it up and it's real for sure. Not a wasted day after all, down a couple of k on the poker, but learnt something new!
I always thought it was a Yiddish phrase, and how the word "agitation" came about. But it's actually in the dictionary. Neat.
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03-01-2021 , 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Because, ya know, there's no choices out there but communism or American-style capitalism.
right. capitalism will take over govt and siphon resources. its already doing so in the UK where the NHS will soon be dismantled. post WW2 the capitalists had to make concessions due to the fear countries would go fully Soviet style Commie. without that counterbalance there has been the continuous systematic destruction of any public services in all countries. capitalism is really expensive.
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03-01-2021 , 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
right. capitalism will take over govt and siphon resources. its already doing so in the UK where the NHS will soon be dismantled. post WW2 the capitalists had to make concessions due to the fear countries would go fully Soviet style Commie. without that counterbalance there has been the continuous systematic destruction of any public services in all countries. capitalism is really expensive.
No, there's plenty of other ways to go, but I won't waste my time trying to show you any gray in your black-and-white world.
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03-01-2021 , 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
right. capitalism will take over govt and siphon resources. its already doing so in the UK where the NHS will soon be dismantled. post WW2 the capitalists had to make concessions due to the fear countries would go fully Soviet style Commie. without that counterbalance there has been the continuous systematic destruction of any public services in all countries. capitalism is really expensive.
Lots of political issues with the NHS and lots of problems to address but rumours of it's death may be greatly exaggerated

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03-01-2021 , 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Clearly lol. We've just spent the last few posts explaining it to lagtight.
And don't think for even one second that I'm not grateful for that.
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03-01-2021 , 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
I present facts. you present insults. I am sorry that my facts upset you so much. its pretty easy to reconcile your opinion with such facts.
Let's check in with Victor for another one of these facts he likes to present:

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its already doing so in the UK where the NHS will soon be dismantled.
Oh, yes, this is very factual and not at all some propaganda you totally made up.
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03-01-2021 , 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
I did not know the word "agita". I thought you made it up but I looked it up and it's real for sure. Not a wasted day after all, down a couple of k on the poker, but learnt something new!

This might be the first time I've learnt a new word from reading these fora, erm, forums. Although, having said that, I imagine either well named or OrP said something over the years that I had to look up. Regardless, you're in good company.

Edit: I also feel rather agitated (see what I did there?) that it is not a plural of "agitum", at least according to dictionary.com.

Edit2: Actually, in this very thread, OrP used the word "defeasible", the meaning of which I could infer both from etymology and context, but I had not heard it before so I looked it up for good measure.
I think it's an Italian-American bastardization of some real Italian word.

But yeah, it's official on the google. I see. lol

Defeasible seems like a lawyer word. OP is too smart for us.
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03-01-2021 , 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Let's check in with Victor for another one of these facts he likes to present:



Oh, yes, this is very factual and not at all some propaganda you totally made up.
Do you understand how the future verb tense works?
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03-01-2021 , 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
Do you understand how the future verb tense works?
Yes. How soon will it be dismantled, and why, and what is your evidence for this?
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03-01-2021 , 09:32 AM
I dunno do I look like quasimodo

Anyway first links for nhs privatization

https://amp.theguardian.com/society/...id-19-response

https://www.thenation.com/article/wo...ization/tnamp/
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