The earth is the pool, and humanity is the kid that pisses in it despite being told not to.

It's undeniable that a change occurs. The people directly next to the pisser feel it getting warmer and are not pleased, but the pool is gonna be fine in the long run.

Branson, Musk, and Bezos are going to build you guys a new pool. It's a bit of a fixer-upper right now, no atmosphere and all, but there's a lot of potential.

The climate has certainly changed over time. But that is looking back in time. It is quite another deal-e-o to project how it will change in the future. In thirty years, we might be projecting "global cooling" or we might be projecting "global warming".

Watching two complete ignoramuses reinforce each other's views is quite edifying. I suspect this phenomenon serves as the genesis of most right wing dogma.

Says the guy who spends his entire day blowing literal smoke into the air.

Sick burn, brah. You coach?

The people who actually study this for a living disagree. But they also don’t believe in talking snakes and dragons, so idk how much we can trust them.

Don't forget the winged elephants. Inso0 loves those.

The argument about the Times article is pure mis information.

Yes a few Scientists investigated the possibility, that is how science works.

This is in no way even remotely comparable to the massive consensus that exists in Science today about carbon forced warming.

The strength of the carbon forcing hypothesis is infinite magnitudes stronger than a niche hypothesis from the 70s that got blown up by section of the media for a while.

The idea that the move from cooling to heating is some kind of 360 pivot by science is as absurd and uniformed as dry desserts are hot due to water vapour.

You're trying to explain partial fraction decomposition to a 5 year old. You might need to start with "division" and go from there.

Gonna need to hear more about these winged elephants.

fyp

Division too advanced for me. He needs to start with addition.

Have a great day, y'all!

The "Climate is changing and we can't do anything about it" crowd has to be the most annoying in the world. How do you get stuck with the same shitty arguments for decades when one google search should clear it up instantly?

I mean, we can solve the obesity epidemic as well. That would be much less difficult than altering the course of our climatological future, and probably better overall for the species. Houses can be rebuilt 15 miles inland on the new coastlines.

Think about what billions of healthy bodies would be capable of if they put their collective minds to it.

When is the last time your fat ass got on a bike?

I could hop on bike and solve my obesity myself. But if I stop completely using GHG tomorrow, it won't make a difference to the billion+ people that are going to get hurt by it. So only way is to work through politics. Duh..

So do nothing?

That is a serious question as I think technology is going to have to be our ultimate savior here along with some re-adjustment of people to new opening up fertile land masses.

But advances in tech require time and the more time we can buy the better. Or are more in the 'Let it Rip', 'do nothing', 'no green energy, vehicles, etc', camp?

You've seen the graphs. They want us to revert society back to the 1800s. You can make all the political mandates you like, but you need the cooperation of individuals to see an effect.

I'm not suggesting that we all take up tire-burning as a hobby, but unless you cull 20% of the global population, the focus needs to be on improving technology and not changing human behavior.

Again, we can't even get people to stop killing themselves with alcohol and mozzarella sticks. What sort of luck do you think you'll have by taking away all of their modern comforts in the name of saving their great great great grandchildren from having to move further inland?

Explain?

We see behaviours changing now with regards to renewable energy, electric vehicles, etc.

Those behaviours are even more predominate in the younger generations.

Why do you believe that should be undone? Why so binary a position?

Again the effectiveness of new tech grows over time. Gained time increments are important.

It's great how right wingers seamlessly and, it appears, subconsciously switch between "anthropogenic climate change is not real" and "anthropogenic climate change is real, but we can't do anything about it".

It’s very easy if you have zero self respect and don’t mind being a lying clown on the internet.

Hell just keeping up with the flip-flopping on google's reliability is enough to make you dizzy.

These are technological improvements.

Behavior modification is what you see on the doomsayer websites that tell people to walk to and from any store less than 2 miles from your house, stop eating meat, set your thermostat to 60 in the winter and 80 in the summer, swap to the Cheryl Crow single-square technique, or unplug all electronics that aren't actively in use.

We have people in this thread bashing Amazon Prime. One does not simply go back to having to put on pants and go outside instead of clicking a few buttons and having a truck show up the next day with whatever your heart desires. That genie doesn't go back in the bottle.

Giving tax breaks to companies working on would-be breakthrough technologies is a good policy. Simply dictating that all automobiles must get 50 mpg by 2025 is not. All you do is force companies to lie to regulators and discontinue things that people love.

Relying on peoples' self control is a recipe for disappointment.

We need to get people to give up cars, or at least minimize day to day usage of cars. Transportation in passenger cars is by far the biggest contributor to transportation CO2 emissions.

Behaviour will lag and it will change too late, but when shits really up in everyone's grill, people will change.