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Originally Posted by tame_deuces
Priority lists tend to be emotional, triggered by something direct and dramatic. It's hard to get people to be worried about that seems far off and which creeps by so slowly that even if its effects are well underway, it has gone gradually enough to make it seem seem natural.
But a casket from Afghanistan, the harrowing account of victims being tortured to death by cartels or the tax percentage on your payslip is going to strike harder for most of us than a climatologist's graph, regardless of the enormous and ongoing suffering it shows.
There were recent threads here dedicated to the trolley problem, trying to make the trolley problem predictable by political ideology. The problem is of course, the trolley problem was real it would probably look something like this:
1.) 20% of people arguing that trolley construction makes the problem impossible.
2.) 10% of people busy blaming the trolley driver on social media.
3.) 5% of people arguing that the trolley driver is part of a conspiracy.
4.) 30% of people who don't really care.
5.) 15% of people arguing that both sides are equally bad.
6.) 5% of people arguing that people lying down on train tracks get what they deserve.
7.) 5% of people arguing that trolleys work just fine, we need to live with the accidents and stop installing buttons everywhere.
8.) 10% argue amongst themselves about whether the problem is too few fences or too few buttons.
Add to that a lot of people busy arguing that if their guy was in charge, the problem would not exist.
That doesn't mean the issue wouldn't be solved, merely that the road to a solution tends to be messy and confusing.
I dont know what the trolley problem is, I havent followed that thread really.
But this is where the cat bites its tail. How did we get into this mess in the first place? Let me tell you, corporate greed. We are busy making wars and expoiting other nations which in the end is biting us in the ass. We do not profit from it, only in the short term. Corporate is profiting, which only leads to more inequalities and even more problems. There is nothing emotional about this. It is only rational.
You want clean oceans? No more hurricanes, no more bushfires? Then help those people who burn their trash every night, because they dont know how else to get rid of it. Stop making them do that, they have no other option of disposing their trash. I lived in India, I know how it is. 1.3B people are throwing their trash into the ocean or burn it every f night at their doorstep. Same thing in Africa. Stop throwing money at the cartels who are only greedy and make things worse for everybody. And stop with the effing tax cuts for them. Stop with the exploitation and at the same time shouting racial equalities. Build your own **** or at least, when you are letting them work for you give them reasonable pay. If you dont they eff things up. There is no equalities in which we are doing. Its parasitic behaviour. Africa is not getting on its feet, when all we do is eplore them.
Yeah, stop throwin money at the corporates while giving them tax cuts, as with the car industry, its madness, truely. The govs are throwing money at them, while knowing it only effs up everyhting even more. But they are making money. GOP is the only thing that really matters to them. Our govs are throwing money at VW, Audi, Mercedes etc. etc. , so they can make even more SUVs with bigger engines which are still buring fossil fuels. Not that I dont drive a car or anything, but again that is what got us into this, greed. The first car was electric. Not everyone knows that electric cars were always superior when the car was invented and hit the mainstream. But that wouldnt bring enough money, oil was, wars were. They could have gone a complete different and eficcient parth back then, even now, but they didnt. It wouldnt bring all that money. Corps were making laws to set this up. All they do is talking while doing the same bs over and over. People are getting burned at the bottom, and used as collateral damage, while messing up the planet, and only a few profit from this.
We are constantly throwing money at 1% of people while the majority is dying or living in poverty, which is messing things up even more. But all we care is living in comfort. Yeah, there is nothing wrong with that, but at least help these guys who shoulder all your comfort down in Mexico etc. We are a war machinery that is only living on the backs of others. And then we are talking about climate change, and doing the same things over and over. Politicians dont care, they are just interested in their ratings, while at the same time being in cahoots with the cartels. Be it drug cartels in Mexico, or auto cartels in the west. Its truely ridiculous.
So yes, in summary if nobody would live in poverty around the world, they could care about the climate, and we wouldnt be busy with problems the corporates are producing while getting rich. The corps have the responsibilites to change things. As long as this doenst happen and does not get in the minds of peole we are effed.
Last edited by washoe; 07-19-2021 at 09:15 AM.