Those houses shouldn’t be there, with or without climate change.

How the stuff is getting to you is the problem. Mostly by diesel. If you want it faster, then by air, which means oven more oil.

Please read this article.

"Click, Click, Emit—The Carbon Cost of Online Shopping"

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...line-shopping/

"The majority of trucks that transport goods are powered by fossil fuels like diesel, experts say. That means the process of getting gifts from warehouses to consumers involves pumping large quantities of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.

“Right now, under the status quo, basically every product, whether it ends up at the door or at the store, gets there via fossil fuel transportation,” "

It takes a lot less energy and shipping space to move a package than to move a human. Just empirically we know emissions went way down last year with travel down and parcel shipping way up.

I bought an electric car after my son told me that he learned in school that my generation was killing his generation.

I watched it and it had some prediction that a set of Islands would be under water by now. They are not.

I dont know what the trolley problem is, I havent followed that thread really.

But this is where the cat bites its tail. How did we get into this mess in the first place? Let me tell you, corporate greed. We are busy making wars and expoiting other nations which in the end is biting us in the ass. We do not profit from it, only in the short term. Corporate is profiting, which only leads to more inequalities and even more problems. There is nothing emotional about this. It is only rational.

You want clean oceans? No more hurricanes, no more bushfires? Then help those people who burn their trash every night, because they dont know how else to get rid of it. Stop making them do that, they have no other option of disposing their trash. I lived in India, I know how it is. 1.3B people are throwing their trash into the ocean or burn it every f night at their doorstep. Same thing in Africa. Stop throwing money at the cartels who are only greedy and make things worse for everybody. And stop with the effing tax cuts for them. Stop with the exploitation and at the same time shouting racial equalities. Build your own **** or at least, when you are letting them work for you give them reasonable pay. If you dont they eff things up. There is no equalities in which we are doing. Its parasitic behaviour. Africa is not getting on its feet, when all we do is eplore them.

Yeah, stop throwin money at the corporates while giving them tax cuts, as with the car industry, its madness, truely. The govs are throwing money at them, while knowing it only effs up everyhting even more. But they are making money. GOP is the only thing that really matters to them. Our govs are throwing money at VW, Audi, Mercedes etc. etc. , so they can make even more SUVs with bigger engines which are still buring fossil fuels. Not that I dont drive a car or anything, but again that is what got us into this, greed. The first car was electric. Not everyone knows that electric cars were always superior when the car was invented and hit the mainstream. But that wouldnt bring enough money, oil was, wars were. They could have gone a complete different and eficcient parth back then, even now, but they didnt. It wouldnt bring all that money. Corps were making laws to set this up. All they do is talking while doing the same bs over and over. People are getting burned at the bottom, and used as collateral damage, while messing up the planet, and only a few profit from this.

We are constantly throwing money at 1% of people while the majority is dying or living in poverty, which is messing things up even more. But all we care is living in comfort. Yeah, there is nothing wrong with that, but at least help these guys who shoulder all your comfort down in Mexico etc. We are a war machinery that is only living on the backs of others. And then we are talking about climate change, and doing the same things over and over. Politicians dont care, they are just interested in their ratings, while at the same time being in cahoots with the cartels. Be it drug cartels in Mexico, or auto cartels in the west. Its truely ridiculous.

So yes, in summary if nobody would live in poverty around the world, they could care about the climate, and we wouldnt be busy with problems the corporates are producing while getting rich. The corps have the responsibilites to change things. As long as this doenst happen and does not get in the minds of peole we are effed.

this is either the same or a very similar area of the Outer Banks in 1950

the ocean has since moved - I would estimate - about 40 yards closer to the houses

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Packaging, my friend, among a few other problems such as frequenicies of shopping. Do you have a link for this?

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/26/t...ail/index.html

Congrats my friend, your car`s carbon footprint is zero in about 10-15 years if it last that long. Other than that, good purchase imo.

You might want to rethink if this is really helpful to the environment though at the moment.

"The extraction of water to get the lithium is drying out entire towns like San Pedro de Atacama and protected sites like the national monument of Peine, as well as wreaking environmental havoc in general. The tension between needing lithium to mitigate climate change and actually causing it by desertifying a region would be ironic if it wasn’t so typically horrible."

https://www.thedrive.com/news/37004/...car-revolution

Coal plants are being phased out rather quickly at this point in the US. Natural gas has taken over as well as increased wind and solar with nuclear holding fairly steady.

I get roughly the equivalence of 120 mpg. So I am ok with my decision. I am thinking that it is an improvement over an ICU car though not perfect.

Electric cars purchases will keep going up and there will be some fallout for sure. But it isn't six of one half a dozen of the other. If we don't stop the air pollution hundreds of millions of people will die as a result.

Hopefully they will improve car batteries.

The compounding effect for Climate Change is that citizens now expect their gov't to protect them from the changing environment. To 'hold the ocean back' where coastal land is at risk, to 'make water appear' where water becomes non-existent.

In the past such issues caused mass migration to more fertile or suitable areas and the world just accepted it. Now we expect to hold borders against such influx.

So as Coastal area or areas with no water are forced to evacuate you will see new fertile swaths of land open in places like Canada's arctic. Resource rich lands with increasingly living climate.

Will the world allow all the displaced people to migrate to these new, opening frontiers? Or will it be fought at every stage exasperating the problem as many people deal with nothing while seeing vast swaths of fertile land sitting under utilized???

I'm sure Venice would be happy to provide some technical data if the nice folks of the Outer Banks sent them an e-mail request.

I doubt those comparison photos were taken at the same time in the tide cycle, btw. Here's another one from the 50s in that area:



In reality, a majority of people are selfish. The only solution to this is carbon capture technology. Nobody is going to want to make their lives more inconvenient, and as stated above, most of your long-term risk comes from China and India. Those people are just getting a taste of the 21st century, and you want them to revert back 200 years? Good luck.

All we have to do is put the dinosaurs back in the ground. Carbon capture too expensive? Just increase the minimum wage to $500/hr to offset the cost. Or maybe turn Jeff Bezos upside down and shake his pockets empty. Internet logic solves all problems.

A vast majority of manmade CO2 pollution comes from generating heat and electricity, and transportation. Someone dig up Gene Roddenberry and see if he had schematics for transporter technology hidden in the lining of his jacket. Tell the NIMBYs to piss off and just erect wind and solar plants everywhere they make sense. I'm sure you could've built a few dozen wind turbines with the money we pissed down the drain in Milwaukee building this trolley that runs by my office all day with 3 passengers in it.

Prioritize!

I did not want to criticize your choice. I think it's great what you did. My point being is it's not really helping or changing anything as of now.

The last bolded thing made me laugh out loud. So many infrastructure nonsense projects.

However I would like to point out in the other bolded part that Carbon Capture Technology isn't the only viable solution.

The use of wind, solar and hydro solutions (in which the needed resources are all free) is so much better than digging up coal and drilling for oil. Better that is for anyone other than oil, gas, and coal companies and related power plant makers.

So for generating electricity Carbon Capture doesn't matter much.

The benefit of Carbon Capture though is that oil and gas companies are highly incentivized to figure out a way to do it. And of course planting trees and saving forests would be a win-win as well.

And for the record I have chosen to make my life less convenient. In the 1980's I gave up eating meat in part because of what I read in Diet for a Small Planet which informed me that cows eat over 17x their weight in feed. Then I stopped eating fowl because I thought it more important not to encourage the horrible way that they were being raised (for the most part).

I am glad that my example has made such a big impact on the world.

That certainly explains why Venus is such a lush tropical paradise with temperatures around 90°f as scientist predicted before the first probes were sent.

Another problem we have is the Amazon Rain Forest was a net positive capture of CO2 emissions. With all the logging and burning of the rain forest that longer occurs and releases I do believe 75% more CO2 than it captures

Also factor in the amount of folks in China and India that are moving up in classes and they purchase cars and AC units.

As temperatures rise in other countries like Canada more and more AC units added which are power demand heavy

Reality is if Covid had killed off 25% of the planet we would be in a better place unless your one of the folks that died

Delta variant is out there, so don't give up hope just yet.

You didn't just tell him to suck it up ?

i get tired of getting bashed over the head 10 to 20 times a day with the progressive message (although i agree with the basics of that message in many ways)

and, i think the "global warming hysteria" is ridiculous... proponents need to slow down and present arguments and data to the public instead of simply fanning hysteria with little info.

BUT, OTOH,

we just broke the all-time canadian "any day/any place" temperature record by 7 degrees..... think about that. we broke the record by 7 degrees (incrementally in 3-4 days. but 7 degrees above the record at the end of last year. ever/anywhere)

a town 200 miles north of seattle and inland had a hotter day than phoenix and las vegas have had "any day" in their entire recorded history. and then, the entire town burned down a day later (maybe sparks from a freight train)

this is very worrisome.

the younger generation is apparently resistent to getting vaccinated and haven't taken the COVID seriously enough.

driving to whistler i see young people with "sustainability" bumper stickers. going above the speed limit by 25 miles per hour, much faster than any car around them.

but of course, COVID and highway deaths don't fit the high school "sustainability" criteria. better to rant at oil companies (while you drive to your 2nd vacation home in an SUV)

1. It's great that you bought an electric car.

2. I hope you told your son that his teacher is an idiot.

3. Have a blessed day!

So be it. It's mostly the poor and the sick and the ignorant that will die. That's the way Evolution works, right? Isn't the death a billion or so insignificant people a small price to pay as we inch closer to achieving The Master Race?

(I'm being facetious. I think Macroevolution is demeaning and stupid.)

checked the numbers myself,

the amazon rainforest has decreased at an approx rate of 0.4% per year since 1970. and it decreased higher annual rate in earlier years, now probably under 0.3% annual reduction.

and most of that reduction is ultimately to help poor amazonians feed their families..... so there is a benefit to the deforestation..

the net benefit is in the eye of the beholder.

something few talk about,

fossil fuel use and economic growth (and some other things) have lifted billions out of poverty... i see a world bank graph showing "% living in extreme poverty on earth" went from 40% to 10% in 35 years ending 5 years ago (just don't have more recent data, not implying it reversed). and i guarantee that all kinds of politically incorrect stuff were main drivers of this "good news". something like GMO food has enabled populations to grow like crazy in the 3rd world. you can debate good/bad thing, but a big % of those people wouldn't be alive without it.

and what about all the liberal soccer moms (and other progressives) i see who love the progressive agenda but then drive multiple ICE cars including an SUV and have a vacation home they drive to every weekend.. i have never seen CNN come down on these people. you can't have it both ways, folks.

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I'm sure Greta Whatshername will jet around the world telling her generation how evil her Dad's and Grandma's generations were for encouraging air travel.

Evolution in Action! Kill the Weak and preserve the Strong!