Generally I agree uninformed activism produces harms and unnecessarily gives the opposition things to point at. But the activism also pushes things through and keeps the issue in the public conscious, which can be taken for granted. Personally, I place some more blame on sensationalistic journalism mediating science to the public. The average environmentalist can't be expected to be able to sift through the hundreds of pages of IPCC reports and catch the correct threads, they are too busy hugging trees.

And yes a bulk of our hopes of mitigation rely on tech and economics globally, but I'm not picky about choosing smaller optimizations if the benefits are there at the same time. If only to get rid of the dasterdly smog.

Yes? I'm not sure what point you're trying to make exactly, but runaway power of the federal government is definitely not how the founding fathers wanted things to end up.

As they say, all politics is local.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/25/c...e=articleShare

This pissed me off.

Toyota bet on hybrids and hydrogen investing billions into those two technologies and therefore betting the company on them. Well battery tech far surpassed hydrogen and hybrids are relics. So for the future of Toyota market share their lobbyists are fighting better fuel standards all across the globe.

Circumstances have changed just a little bit since the 1700s. Do you really think it makes more sense for individual states? or should we go county by county? to take the lead when interfacing with the rest of the world/other countries? Seems like it would turn into a complete nightmare. Some things just make much more sense to tackle as a group--when the US comes to the table negotiations are going go very differently than when Vermont shows up to get bent over and slapped around

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the entire town of Greenville, CA - which is a historic town - has been lost to fire



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https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/...esses-79282608




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Very sad.

I live near one of the bigger fires (Dixie Fire). The air is thick with smoke, although where I live (Chico) is safe right now.

Just 30 miles from here almost the whole town of Paradise burned to the ground in 2018.

Well seem it start to accelerate now ….
First rainy day registered in Groenland / Greenland today , since the beginning of human recording weather obv.

Can’t believe idiots still think it’s natural shift in like 100 year years when usually it takes millennia’s.
Energy produce heat but billions of people consuming energy do not create a lot of heat …..jfc…
How dumb can they be .

Articles do not suggest that it was the first rainfall in Greenland ever (which I was a bit incredulous of)-- but rather at a specific location there.

Trivia Time: Why was it named Greenland?

The article I red was at the ice cap near a station over there .
It never rains only snow fall.
It’s the fourth time it reach above 0 Celsius, 3 times since 1999 and the 4 th in 1880 ….

But if that doesn’t mean anything , nothing will .

I remember in the 1970 listening how cold it was over there like the North Pole .
And I was used to -30 degrees …
Now it’s freakn raining ffs …

But hey it’s a hoax , fackin dumb .

Well, first things first. The etymology is from old Norse, the English-speaking tin got it right for once, "grœnn land" = green land.

The reigning theory is that it was marketing. By giving it an appealing name, settlers would move there.

And no, this is actually not a joke. It is genuinely held that an exile named Erik the Red took his family and estate to the tip of Greenland that had farmable land, and used this name to attract people to follow. It was very successful, until in a story fitting for 2021, the settlement was nearly wiped out by an epidemic.

Erik the Red: One of the original Mad Men?

It rained on a glacier which is much worse than just general rain in Greenland.

If your state isn’t keeping up with electrical demand, hold a recall election.

Crucial Antarctic ice shelf could fail within five years, scientists say
December 13, 2021



Scientists have discovered a series of worrying weaknesses in the ice shelf holding back one of Antarctica’s most dangerous glaciers, suggesting that this important buttress against sea level rise could shatter within the next three to five years.

Until recently, the ice shelf was seen as the most stable part of Thwaites Glacier, a Florida-sized frozen expanse that already contributes about 4 percent of annual global sea level rise. ...

But new data show that the warming ocean is eroding the eastern ice shelf from below. ...show several large, diagonal cracks extending across the floating ice wedge...

“This eastern ice shelf is likely to shatter into hundreds of icebergs,” she said. “Suddenly the whole thing would collapse.”

The failure of the shelf would not immediately accelerate global sea level rise. The shelf already floats on the ocean surface, taking up the same amount of space whether it is solid or liquid.

But when the shelf fails, the eastern third of Thwaites Glacier will triple in speed, spitting formerly landlocked ice into the sea. Total collapse of Thwaites could result in several feet of sea level rise, scientists say, endangering millions of people in coastal areas...

Without its protective ice shelf, scientists fear that Thwaites may become vulnerable to ice cliff collapse, a process in which towering walls of ice that directly overlook the ocean start to crumble into the sea...

I read an article that says Jeff Bezos 10 minute flights for millionaires contributes 300 tons of carbon.

We actually have two major, delusional denials going right now which probably encapsulate 99% of the population or more. Denial of human caused climate change and its effects is obviously one. The other is the denial that we aren't past the point of no return. Given that our economic modalities will not change we are past the point of no return. We are on a constant growth economic program and there is so much less political will to stop it than what is needed that we should assume every available net harmful resource will be consumed. It's time to assume the worst and proceed from there.

That sounds like a lot but a quick Google search reveals that the average human produces about 2 tons of CO2 a year. So it's not ideal, but not as much as it sounds either. It's the carbon footprint of 2 adults over their lifetimes, or 150 people for 1 year.

Tornadoes in the Midwest on December 15th. Nothing to see here.

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the Arctic is heating up fast

ships traveling where they could not travel a few years ago


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https://www.nbcnews.com/science/envi...-says-rcna8574


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My power is currently out at home. Every single one of you *******s driving an SUV needs to park it and take up walking.

I was planning on starting a Legendary Ironman campaign on XCOM2 tonight. This is unacceptable.

Do you spend a lot of time role playing as James Bond?

No time for that. Too busy yelling, "What the ****! How did that miss?!" at the screen after the 3rd 88% shot in a row flies wide left and another ranger goes down.

Another possible domino may be falling in the build up to era of the great ****ing off

https://www.theguardian.com/science/...ory-satellites