So, is that your example? That 5 years ago Smollett faked a hate crime which many people believed until the truth came out, and that's the psychotic content which makes it self-explanatory that Page is mentally ill?

Yes that behavior is insane to me, it indicates to me a mental issue. Someone that has tied their emotions to reason and reason to their emotions. Thats a mental illness, by definition.

Another button definition that no one is the world agrees with.

You don't agree that following logic and reason is part of a health brain and following emotion that flies in the face of them is by definition disorder of the brain?

Amazing. Many people believed the Smollet accusations, but because Page did, he's mentally ill. OK then.

Are you sure that interview is the whole reason you believe this? It's rather difficult to believe that someone who prides himself on logic and reason would make such an incredible leap.

Page: "I believe Smollett"
jbouton: "You're mentally ill"

I'm finding this hard to believe.

Do you think if there was a poll of who believed it that it would be heavily skewed towards people that are weaker comparatively in logic to those that thought it was suspect?

At the time of that interview? No idea. But being weak in logic isn't a sign of mental illness.

This defines every person who has ever lived, except possibly psychopaths or someone who has no emotion. I try to not let my emotions influence things that are better solved with reason, and I think they influence my reasoning far less than the average person, but I realize that they still influence my reasoning quite a bit.

And I thought you were an economist. If you had studied any behavioral economics, even just in popular books, you would know that what I just stated was true.

Saying that a transgender person who gets gender affirming surgery or takes hormone treatments has a mental illness for doing so is just another way of saying transgender people are mentally ill. It is a distinction without a difference, and an attempt to work around our policy.

Please stop it.

Sad to see Mods stigmatizing Mental Health as in that Mental illness is a bad thing . If the trans community has a higher suicide rate than a non trans individual than they have a higher occurrence of having a mental health issue. To say all trans people are suffering a mental heath issue is also wrong but to deny that any of them are experiencing a mental health issue is wrong as well.

Though the individual here is clearly out of line.

Please, no medical advice or sanctimony from those that don't understand please stop it.

Give me an example of an economics book that involves the phenomenon you are referring to. I'm not an economist but its not part of economics really. Not in an economics text book. I'm working on toms tho.

Nonetheless, I'm more referring to someone that has convinced themselves that emotion trumps logic and thats a logical thing. Its a disease of the mind, not economics. Not rational behavior.

Is it racist if i refuse to call him 'jusse' also?

There seems to be the problem that some people feel there moral sentiments are the justification of what is truth and true. That if jessie is black enough then some things start to happen such as there must ignorant people that are too blame. If he is the oppressed race enough then we can start with the assumption that the crime is against him.

When else do we start with such assumptions and then add fervor?

These same people feel that a groups sympathy can further solidify that truth and at the same time is owed.

And then the actress that spends their life playing roles of smart people thinks its their duty to excite the emotions of the crowd to sway and overshadow the otherwise impartial jury.

We need to identify and weed out the influencers and loudmouths that belief their subjective views trump science reason and jurisprudence.

If transgender people have a higher suicide rate than normal, it seems like a huge dick move for people to belittle and mock them and in general take every opportunity **** on their gender identity.

The most famous one is "Thinking Fast And Slow", by Daniel Kahneman, who won the Nobel Prize for economics.

Look at this article. The opening quote is from another Behavioral economics professor and author.

https://medium.com/@jorgevalencia/wh...s-e0fcb3897f5b

The bolded part above doesn't make any sense to me, and I can't imagine that anyone does that.

Yes we make snap judgements based on our moral sentiments.

But we shouldn't believe that our moral sentiments are to trump the logic of logic. increasingly find people that believe otherwise. You don't? Like if i site beside ellen here and said 'what you are saying makes no sense' and she would reply 'youre racist!'

I understand economics isn't separate from human behavior yup. But thats not to say emotion is meant to trump reason and supercede and that is rational.

I have never heard anyone say "emotion should trump logic", just that emotion generally does trump logic.

The notion that prohibiting posters from calling people mentally ill who in fact have no mental illness somehow stigmatizes mental illness is ridiculous. False claims of mental illness have been used for decades to marginalize the lgbtq community and has been used to justify all sorts of abuse and discrimination.

It is especially insidious when the false claim is used against an entire category of people's very existence. It is a very different thing to say "browser is a transgender person who also happens to have mental illness X (whichever one you choose, depression, schizophrenia, etc) versus saying "browser is a mentally ill person BECAUSE he believes he is a transgender person"

Then why do you let him post this kinda crap instead of deleting and temp banning him?

People are screaming this at the top of their lungs right now. Its an american slogan. Its the leftist battle cry.

Because in this particular case the wording was such as to suggest that it wasnt being transgender per se he was calling a mental illness, but rather he suggested that those transgender people who seek out certain gender affirming treatments are mentally ill. So I warned him that it was a distinction without a difference and would be treated the same under the policy and he needs to stop.

If you want to continue this discussion pls do so in the mod thread rather than here.

Thanks

If jjjou812 is referring to myself and your referring to me I never at all indicated seeking gender affirming care means you have a mental illness . If not my apologies .

Are you even in America? I have been here 54 years, and I've never heard that.

WTF are you talking about? No one was denying that some transgender people could be suffering from mental illness, just like other people can be. "Saying that a transgender person who gets gender affirming surgery or takes hormone treatments has a mental illness for doing so is just another way of saying transgender people are mentally ill. It is a distinction without a difference, and an attempt to work around our policy." is in no way "stigmatizing mental health". The wording is quite clear, speaking against the idea that being transgender is a mental illness in and of itself.

Maybe you should spend less time making weirdly unfounded assumptions based on 5 year old late night talk show interviews. The fact that you even posted it as part of some "emotion is trumping logic" point in this thread is...rather bizarre.

Speaking of bizarre, WTF is with this question? Why would you refuse to call someone by their birth name (which is Jussie, not Jusse)?

It seemed pretty clear to me that both were referring to PerpetualTroll.