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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
It's obvious he was being slightly hyperbolic. However, it's fair to say you downplayed the extent of human rights issues in China, especially when it comes to free speech. You did not even acknowledge the criticism I posted, which I think aptly describes your post, i.e. an ad hoc relaying of your experience, which closely correlates to how an elite is treated in China, and the lack of self-awareness of that cast a shadow on your motivations. You are looking at, and describing China with rose colored goggles.
It looks a lot like you are trying to defend China, without having to explicitly defend China, becuase you know China can't really be defended, if you ascribe to western liberal ideals, which almost everyone here does.
Either way, you can't be that sensitive to hyperbole in this sub forum. Just counter the claim, and move on.
I appreciate you bringing a level headed discussion
I'm not getting into the real life portion of things but I was research oriented news producer at what is quintessentially the most pro freedom/human rights/etc news organisation possible... It was banned in China and this was long before most were banned
Nothing about this is anecdotal from drinking beers in a bar full of expats it's data driven from 3 years in the trenches working in an office that I've already told you was bugged
The fact is any sort of non hyperbolic statement about China is so out of place for you guys, you're treating me like rose colored glass wearer making outlandish comments
It'sshotinvegas, if you want you can pm me and I can send you my LinkedIn, show you pictures of me with dissidents etc... I'd honestly rather not take it to that extent but am offering to to that.
To the thread:
Nowhere here did a say a single positive word about China, I just pointed out that none of you understood anything you're talking about and that leads to attacks claiming I'm the biased one defending evil and a chinese shill
This is my point, you guys would rather construct a straw man and attack me when I point out what you're doing than engage in a real dialogue over the issue... This is why we're treading water in rhetorical devices and logical fallacy while they exert their growing influence on the world stage
If you believe China is a problem you should at least attempt to understand it rather than spout nonsense that accomplished nothing other than gives you apat on the back and make you feel better about yourself for a fleeting moment