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11-23-2021 , 09:30 AM
@tame i very much appreciate the fulsome reply.
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11-23-2021 , 10:46 AM
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It is obviously true you care to be right or you would not keep lying about tripling down on something so absurd. You would just own up and more on or let it go but you are vested in not.



You have run in to the same issue again.

You lack of belief in China does not equate to you have a greater chance.

Lets try this.

You agree China would lose in a direct battle with the US, correct?

Who do you think has a chance to do more damage in a loss to the US military, you or China?
A war between the USA and China is a loss for everyone. No one comes out a winner
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11-23-2021 , 11:47 AM
lozen, no one is arguing that. That is obvious.

The only discussion engaged here is bryce maintains that in any such conflicts between China and the rest of the world, he personally has more power and would have a higher chance at winning the conflict due to who he knows in the US and elsewhere as opposed to China's chances?

He is tripled down on this idea that any betting line should see him as the favorite over China.
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11-23-2021 , 12:08 PM
It's actually true China has virtually no power projection capabilities beyond its immediate neighborhood. They are building it, but it's not ready.

That still doesn't mean they'd lose in a war in South China Sea.

Indeed, I am not sure what "winning" looks like for China/US in South China Sea.

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11-23-2021 , 01:23 PM
Specifically with regards to the CNN report, people seem to have forgotten the fact that Faree Zakaria has been caught doing sloppy journalism including plagiarism in the past. He's a GREAT story teller and, in my opinion, is generally pretty good at staying honest but the quality/integrity of his research is nowhere near academically acceptable. Between cheddar and academic research, he's closer to Cheddar.

To put in another context, I am pretty sure John Oliver's Last Week Tonight's research team spends more man-hours on research and checking sources than Fareed Zakaria and his team.

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11-23-2021 , 03:54 PM
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It's actually true China has virtually no power projection capabilities beyond its immediate neighborhood. They are building it, but it's not ready.

That still doesn't mean they'd lose in a war in South China Sea.

Indeed, I am not sure what "winning" looks like for China/US in South China Sea.
If China was to ever to determine they did not care about the International reaction and backlash and they were going to invade Taiwan the plan would simply be to completely flood the zone with foot troops with Minimal weaponry.

Just amass 50MM troops and put them on the ground as fast as you can get them in, with instructions to invade every nook and cranny, take every foreigner in the country to the airports where they would create safe spaces, and ship them all out of country on their own flights or Chinese provided flights.

Move quickly and dare the US to try and go in, to engage in a conventional war, or put them in the spot where they are using ordinance on regular citizens whom the Chinese army would be embedded amongst.

It would crush Taiwan's economy but China is not the beneficiary of that now, so i doubt they care about that.

I cannot foresee how the US military would respond to that???

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Specifically with regards to the CNN report, people seem to have forgotten the fact that Faree Zakaria has been caught doing sloppy journalism including plagiarism in the past. He's a GREAT story teller and, in my opinion, is generally pretty good at staying honest but the quality/integrity of his research is nowhere near academically acceptable. Between cheddar and academic research, he's closer to Cheddar.

To put in another context, I am pretty sure John Oliver's Last Week Tonight's research team spends more man-hours on research and checking sources than Fareed Zakaria and his team.
Did not know this. Thx.


I thought he was specifically targeted by Trump re the Ukraine disinformation because if they could fool him and his team by having the Ukraine PM deliver the message of 'Investigating Joe Biden', that would pass a high bar of scrutiny for many to consider.

Sounds like you are saying the opposite. They targeted him as he would be a Fish and easy to dupe but has some credibility with his audience.
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11-23-2021 , 05:57 PM
Currently China is edging the race on AI and if we dont catch we are in big trouble

Thos who rely on current dominance are doomed to be fighting the next war with the tools of the last one.
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11-23-2021 , 06:06 PM
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Currently China is edging the race on AI and if we dont catch we are in big trouble

Thos who rely on current dominance are doomed to be fighting the next war with the tools of the last one.
This I totally agree with.

It may sound cliché but I don't the West can win the AI War race against China but I do think China can lose it.

China's desire to hold tight control to everything and force everything to conform to their systems may be their biggest obstacle to certain areas of success. AI could be one of them.
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11-29-2021 , 12:42 PM
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China’s hypersonic nuke ‘fired a SECOND missile mid-flight’ leaving Pentagon reeling as experts say it ‘defies science’

CHINA’S round-the-world hypersonic nuclear weapon fired a second missile while travelling five times faster than the speed of sound, reports claim.

No country had previously been able to demonstrate this advanced engineering feat and the test is said to have caught Pentagon scientists off guard.

Last month China stunned the world when it emerged it launched a hypersonic missile right around the globe.

Now it has been revealed the weapon is far more advanced than originally thought.

The hypersonic glide vehicle, a manoeuvrable spacecraft which can carry a nuclear warhead, fired a separate missile during its flight in the atmosphere over the South China Sea on July 27, according to a Financial Times report.

Experts at the Pentagon’s advanced research agency Darpa are said to be unsure how China achieved the feat, as scientists say it "tests the constraints of physics".

Military experts are said to have been poring over the data to discover how it was achieved...

Some Pentagon experts believe the projectile was an air-to-air missile while others think it was a countermeasure to destroy missile defence systems so that they cannot shoot down the hypersonic weapon...

Both Russia and the US have been trying to develop hypersonic weapons for years, but experts have claimed the firing of the second missile is the latest evidence that China’s efforts are far more advanced than either the Kremlin or the Pentagon.

“This development is concerning to us as it should be to all who seek peace and stability in the region and beyond,”...
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12-01-2021 , 10:36 PM
WTA suspended tourneys in China, including HK.
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12-01-2021 , 10:44 PM
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WTA suspended tourneys in China, including HK.
Hopefully, the men's tour does the same.
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12-02-2021 , 12:02 AM
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WTA suspended tourneys in China, including HK.
This is a big deal. Everybody...the IOC, NBA, Apple, Airlines...the list goes on, all tuck their tail because money is more important to them.

Respect to this steve Simon guy.
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12-02-2021 , 03:33 PM
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Americans see China as biggest threat because they aim to ‘replace’ US:
New poll finds 52% of Americans find China as greatest national threat
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12-04-2021 , 06:08 AM
Over under on how long it takes for the **** to hit the fan. No worries though, we crushed them in the last wargame. Only tood like 10 technologies that we don't actually have yet.
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12-06-2021 , 10:42 AM
Who would have guessed that negotiations from the Top Down, where you treat you market like a single buyer could get such large concessions from Drug Makers to take less profit per person to get access to a vastly profitable market???

Oh... everyone know that but the US.


Drugmakers cut prices by 62% on average to get China state insurance listing

Pharmaceutical firms have agreed to cut prices by 61.7% on average for 67 medicines to be included in China's national medical insurance coverage in a new round of negotiations, ...
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12-06-2021 , 12:24 PM
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12-06-2021 , 02:41 PM
OMG Biden will do a diplomatic boycott. What strength
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12-06-2021 , 04:40 PM
Bullet train for China-Laos railway arrives in Vientiane



-- The electric multiple unit (EMU) train Lane Xang is to be put into the upcoming railway trial run. The name Lane Xang symbolizes the China-Laos relationship as good neighbors, good friends, good comrades as well as good partners.

-- The China-Laos Railway is a docking project between the China-proposed Belt and Road Initiative and Laos' strategy to convert itself into a land-linked hub.

VIENTIANE, Oct. 16 (Xinhua) -- The streamlined "China-standard" bullet train, or electric multiple unit (EMU) train, for the China-Laos railway arrived at the newly built China-Laos Railway Vientiane Station on Saturday.

The EMU train was officially delivered to the Laos-China Railway Co., Ltd., a joint venture based in the Lao capital Vientiane in charge of the railway's construction and operation, at a handover ceremony held in the station with the attendance of Chinese Ambassador to Laos Jiang Zaidong and Lao Minister of Public Works and Transport Viengsavath Siphandone...


The Lane Xang EMU train passes by the China-Laos borderline inside the Friendship Tunnel on Oct. 15, 2021.

...According to the China State Railway Group, the Lane Xang train, with maximum operating speed of 160 km per hour, consists of nine carriages, including a locomotive, a dining coach, a first-class and six second-class coaches, and provides altogether 720 seats.

The air-conditioned carriages are spacious with the comfortable seats installed with power outlets of Chinese and Lao standards. The dining coach is well equipped to meet the needs of passengers for food and leisure; the screens, broadcasts and service signs are all in three languages of Chinese, Lao, and English; and the fourth carriage with barrier-free areas is equipped with special seats, handrails, toilets, SOS call buttons and Braille guide signs to facilitate the travel of disabled passengers....
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01-17-2022 , 02:14 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/17/davo...mentality.html

It's interesting that Mr. Jinping "advises" other nations to be conciliatory and "get along" with each other at the same time he's implying an eventual takeover of Taiwan - by force if necessary.

The $64,000.00 question is what happens if (when) China makes a move on Taiwan? From their perspective, Xi Jinping and the rest of China's political leadership believe Taiwan will eventually come back under Beijing's rule - just as Hong Kong came back under Beijing's rule in 1997. The only question is whether that end result is accomplished through negotiation - or brute force.

China could "invade" Taiwan tomorrow and probably get away with it. What would the United States and the rest of the "free world" do about it? We sure as hell wouldn't start a nuclear war and destroy most of the world over Taiwan. That point was proven in October of 1962 when, possessing an overwhelming strategic advantage in nuclear weapons, we decided saving a little island 90 miles off our shore from "Godless communism" wasn't worth the cost. Xi Jinping and his associates are fairly sure that if push comes to shove, they can invade Taiwan and probably get away with it. However, there will be a cost ...

President Biden has been clear and direct in pointing out to President Jinping that if China seizes Taiwan by force of arms, there will be severe economic consequences in the form of sanctions and restrictions on trade. Mr. Jinping understands (and accepts) this possibility. However, one of the strengths of China is that they are very patient - they tend to take a long-term view when it comes to issues like Taiwan. They know that economic sanctions will be imposed for some period of time (five years perhaps?) but not indefinitely. (When Wal Mart has their supply chain - and their "low prices" - disrupted due to the imposition of economic sanctions against China; they'll be the first [of many] "capitalist" multi-national corporations arguing to lift the sanctions against China.) Economic sanctions, if they are imposed against China, won't last more than a few years - if even that long ... and Xi Jinping knows it.

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01-17-2022 , 03:38 PM
China could simply march who numbers of foot soldiers in and occupy everywhere and then start disappearing people and there would be little the US or anyone could do outside diplomatic channels, like sanctions, etc.

They could not bomb out the embedded troops. They could not send in their own troops to oust them.

But China will wait. There plan is multi generational. And if Trump gets in again, he is one personal deal with his family away from approving it, and if US democracy otherwise continues to fade they will know they can act with little peril of the US rallying a cogent reply.
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01-17-2022 , 04:13 PM
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China could simply march who numbers of foot soldiers in and occupy everywhere and then start disappearing people and there would be little the US or anyone could do outside diplomatic channels, like sanctions, etc.

They could not bomb out the embedded troops. They could not send in their own troops to oust them.

But China will wait. There plan is multi generational. And if Trump gets in again, he is one personal deal with his family away from approving it, and if US democracy otherwise continues to fade they will know they can act with little peril of the US rallying a cogent reply.

You use the same logic with Russia but in 4 years Trump blocked the Nordstrom pipeline and supplied the Ukraine with weapons.
What has Biden done

Trump hated China and reality is no Administration will send troops to protect the Ukraine or Taiwan
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01-18-2022 , 05:48 AM
Hellmuth's BFF's thoughts on the genocide of the Uyghurs:

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01-18-2022 , 06:15 AM
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He's right, nobody cares. They're having the ****ing Olympics in a couple of weeks. The Uyghurs were a thing when they were awarded the games. No one is doing anything about it, so seems like no one that matters cares enough.
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01-18-2022 , 10:38 AM
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Hellmuth's BFF's thoughts on the genocide of the Uyghurs:

Do you disagree with him He is speaking the truth

Good Ole China now blaming Canada for their first Omicron infection in Beijing
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01-18-2022 , 01:45 PM
I certainly can't disagree that he doesn't care.
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