Hey how about you make a coherant pooint first.

You know... you started with this...

and then went to this...

So explain to us your connection between what you "guess why that might be?" and how that plays in to the "Spanish gov't" and why the gov't would ignore obese men?

I feel like “Is the Spanish government far-left?” is a simple question you should be able to answer.

and i feel like you should be able to answer how you are connecting "The Spanish gov't" to a motivation to "promote obese women while ignoring obese men'.

I also know why you won't clarify.

I never said anything like that.

Lots of people are stupid or delusional. You think you get everyhtign from a small taste - It's not true but but is a popular belief. One much loved by sales people.

Twickenham Fine Ale is one where the first pint was okay but by the end of the second my taste buds were singing. That was an extreme exmaple of a common phenomena. It's also true of a lot of good wine. Best wine I ever had wasn't much until the second glass - they omfg! Again an extreme example of a common phenomena. And nothign to do with getting drunker.

Are you drunk right now?

Are you comparing drinking Coors Light to having sex with a prostitute?

No. Prostitutes are people who matter just matter just as much as everyone else. Coors light is an abomination.

The mistake being made can be applied to many very diffrent things. Just as 2 prositutes + 2 prostitutes doesn't make 5 prostitutes anymore than 2 pints of coors + 2 pints of coors makes 5 pints of coors.

I alays love the way trolley thinks he is entitled to having his 'questions' answered as if he is for a discussion.

A pint is not a small taste, lol.


It's because you tip your first pint down in 10 minutes. Of course you can't taste it. Next time you hit the pub, order a pint of something you've haven't had before and sip it slowly over the course of 60-90 minutes.

Try it and see how the flavor blossoms as the ale gets closer to room temperature. If you can't do it or think it would be a waste of time to try, then we know what's up.

It is. Even proper british ones.

Untrue. I very rarely chug the first one and room temperature is totally normal. But sure in general it's a valid point. On the rare days its very hot and I'm parched I might knock one back fast and agree that misses the flavour so you need an extra pint.

Beer being served too cold is getting more common these days but I'm an old fart, not some newbie.

Drink one pint over 90 minutes. I dare you to try it.

Sure, I don't dispute there's enough volume within a pint to mean you could extract the full flavour if you spent 90 mins over it, swirled it round the gums etc

Maybe something between chugging it and deranged lunacy lies the sweet spot

You don't need to swirl it around. Just drink one pint evenly over 90 minutes and let the complex flavors marinate your palate. What are you scared of and why would you call that deranged lunacy?

If ya ask me, deranged lunacy is: "I have to drink 4 pints in 120 minutes to enjoy the taste of a craft beer rather than having 1 pint in 120 minutes. Even though I agree that one slow pint would extract full flavor from the beer, drinking 4 pints instead of 1 pint totally has nothing to do with the intoxicating effects of alcohol felt from the 3 extra pints consumed."

Yeah, “the first pint helps the second pint taste better” is the kind of nonsense thing people with drinking problems tell themselves. Along with “It’s okay, I’m drinking craft beer, not Coors.”

Scared? That seems to be you if anyone. But if you genuinely enjoy that and don't enjoy a high quality evening down the pub with your mates then its fine with me I don't object to odd.

For many of us its a social event with the satisfaction that comes from drinking in a group in all its aspects. It's not just about flavour anymore than its just about alcohol.

That's tough but fair.

he has this habit of trapping himself with his own stupid statements (like above) and thus why he never will answer any questions of his own.

Sadly for him, no one is forced to play with him, so if he won't answer any questions no one should answer his.

You're the one who is refusing to try an evening of just drinking only one pint of craft brew over the course of the evening.

Why do you suppose that is? Are you afraid that your drinking buddies are going to mock and peer pressure you? Are you afraid you're not going to be able to "decompress from my day" enough by only having one pint for the evening?

Sorry to break the news to you, but damn near every person who drinks craft brew has gotten wasted at the bar while playing darts or pool and drinking craft brew. Craft brew has been around in America since the early 90's. Now it is everywhere in America.



I have high-quality evenings with friends while just drinking one beer, or none at all. Why you think it's impossible to do that is indicative of a person who is just going to the pub to get lit and your friends are only interesting if you've got a buzz.


Well, yes, that's what I told you from the outset: it's the booze, not the flavor. This whole concept of going to the pub to be loud, drunken fools with drinking buddies is not unique to the UK.

So... try the one pint challenge.

Re Craft brew, when I hit drinking age, America had no real craft brew industry. American's view of beer was the more watery and less 'beer' flavours the better. Everything was race to zero taste (Coors, Bud, Miller, etc) with the ideal being something slightly over fizzy water.

I am not a beer snob and those beers have their place and i have no issue with anyone who has them as their favorite. I will drink them on a hot beach type scenario but generally prefer flavour with my beer. And beers have more flavours and variety than wines do.

that said America now leads the world in Craft brews. That changed in and around the +/-2000's as I recall and the American craft brew scene has been fantastic.

My only complaint about beers is that I simply cannot avoid a 'beer gut' if i drink beer which is not the same when I drink wine or other spirits so I must (sadly) keep beer to a minimum.

Re Craft brew, when I hit drinking age, America had no real craft brew industry. American's view of beer was the more watery and less 'beer' flavours the better. Everything was race to zero taste (Coors, Bud, Miller, etc) with the ideal being something slightly over fizzy water.

I am not a beer snob and those beers have their place and i have no issue with anyone who has them as their favorite. I will drink them on a hot beach type scenario but generally prefer flavour with my beer. And beers have more flavours and variety than wines do.

that said America now leads the world in Craft brews. That changed in and around the +/-2000's as I recall and the American craft brew scene has been fantastic.

My only complaint about beers is that I simply cannot avoid a 'beer gut' if i drink beer which is not the same when I drink wine or other spirits so I must (sadly) keep beer to a minimum.

lol.

No it's still For many of us its a social event with the satisfaction that comes from drinking in a group in all its aspects. It's not just about flavour anymore than its just about alcohol.

But I understand why you try to make it about one thing only. It's that dysfunctional issue.

I mean, you’ve been gushing in detail about how great the beers are but you haven’t said a thing about your friends.

No reason you can’t chill with friends without pounding down 650 mLs of 9% ABV brews.

Indeed. There's no doubt that the change was real. It's not just the usa - even parts of italy have proper beer now.

Real Ale iss another level but it requires far more experttise to keep it properly and it's served at room temperature which is still a barrier for many countries. I do very much appreciate the amercian IPA though. And it's really encouraged UK craft brewing as well.

Lol.


If you can't just drink one pint for just one visit at the pub with friends for fear of missing out, then the dysfunctional issue lies with you, boyo. Yeah, I know... you can do it, you just don't want to.

Most of us left our 20's when we turned 30. Maybe you've never did this and just picked up going to pubs with friends and drinking 5 pints in your 50's.



You can avoid it by being conscious of calories. Remember that whole part about you being able to "feel" +/- 150 calories in a day?

Unless you're going to QP out on us and try to assert that beer calories causes you to gain fat in your mid-section and the same amount of calories of vodka doesn't.

Just mix it up with one beer followed by water or soda or something.