lol

Here comes the nonsense.

I'm going to call you fat and obese and then lie about it because this is an internet forum and no one can go back and see what I actually said.

That's the definition of stupid right there.

My trainers aren't insane. You are.

My cardiologist tells me every three months that he's impressed with my fitness level.

The gym I go to daily is very high end. That machine is state of the art.
We have a full staff of actual fitness professionals and a nursing staff to coordinate fitness with actual health.

You just painted yourself into a corner with you own bull ****...again.

And everyone here saw it.

Now go back to H+F with the other sissy runner boys and let the adults talk about fitness, okay ?



It's time for you to go on ignore anyway.
I'm getting too old to change diapers all day.

I think that's land o lakes.

Although Weiner may be too fat for our little runner boy.

Beer contains way more carbohydrate than spirits.


A double gin and slimline tonic has 112 calories, A pint of beer is around 210 calories.

A double gin is 2 units and beer is around the same unless you are drinking something about 5% which is not common in the UK market.

Beer is more like 2.5 to 3 units but ok the gap is bigger than I thought.

A 3 unit beer will be closer to 250 calories.

I'm seeing a 7% beer is 4 units and 280 calories

Depends what you drink but I'd much rather have 5 pints of 7% of beer than 10 large gins. Which is something like 1400 instead of 1120

Ethanol calories are the same for drinks of the same total strength.

Vodka for example has almost nothing else other than water and alcohol, but the stuff in beer that makes it taste different to watered-down vodka is pretty much all carbs. That all gets left behind in distillation.

https://getdrunknotfat.com/ lists drinks by "Calories from Alcohol", with vodka at 99 percent and beers at 60-80 percent.

I think though with beer particularly, part of the problem is the fast carbs make you want to eat more after you finish drinking and your blood sugar crashes, so it's 11.45 pm and you're in a late-night kebab shop.

About the thread generally, the science is calories-in calories-out. All the rest comes under nutritional psychology and exercise psychology and is individual. If (like me) reducing carbs and upping vegetables and proteins helps stop hunger then you eat less calories then good. If you can eat the same as before but steel yourself to eat less of it then good too. For me at least just not buying stuff that I'll later be tempted to eat works well.

What beer do you drink that is 7%?

They are not common in the UK where most beer is 4-5%.

There are a few imports but they mostly come in bottles not pints.

Where do you drink?

I used 7% cos of round numbers but strong beer is common these days.

As a guy who is on the opposite end of the spectrum it is always wild to me when I meet someone like that. If I go to the gym consistently for a year I go from looking skinny to looking like an average guy. On the other hand I can run pretty fast even when I haven't run in a long time.

~18%

Yes, I'm sure, but I'll read anyway...

Feel free to quote a post where I said you're unhealthy. I'll wait.

Well, they agree with me that you are not 15%. They're just nice to you because they want to keep taking your money.

You're 58 and see a cardiologist 4 times per year. Why? Do you have high blood pressure? A genetic heart issue?

Yeah, state-of-the-art - a machine that will be thrown off by taking a shower before your scan. It's not even the middle-of-the-line BIA machine made by that particular company.

A "very high-end" gym will have a DEXA, but you can keep lying to yourself - there are plenty of other overweight people in P&S that will believe you - Cognitive Dissonance Brothers - CDB's.

By adults, do you mean overweight people that know next to nothing about actual fitness and perpetuate myths and falsehoods?

P&S is a good place to learn about how starvation mode is stalling your weight loss, how a serving each of beer and vodka are the same amount of calories, how BIA is state-of-the-art, how personal trainers at a typical gym use only actual science and not bro science, how one can defy the laws of thermodynamics, and the list goes on. H&F, not so much.


If I upset you, feel free to place me on ignore. It exists for a reason. It's probably not healthy for you to constantly hurl juvenile insults at people.

7% beer is not common by any stretch of the imagination.

It might be more common than it was but relative to 5% or less its not common.

An average pub will 19 times out of 20 will have no 7% beers on draught and maybe 1 in a bottle.

Apart from very ocassionally settling for a young pub, I can't think of anywhere I go that doesn't have strong beer.

Euston tap was my last session but any pub that does craft beer (which is common) should have plenty of strong ones

It's all just genetics. And different people are just different physically.

As I get older I think the slimmer body type is more useful because I really can't eat anywhere near what I used to. But odds are I'm not morphing.

Enjoy your food. You probably need like 20 minutes of cardio a day and you're golden.

Live on the green squares. lol

Most craft beers are well south of 7%

This is just chez gonna chez.

Sure you can get 7% beer, but it is not common.

Sure if you live in London, you can find somewhere that might have a selection of 7% beers, but that wont be representative of what is available in pubs and supermarkets across the country.

5 pints of 7% beer is equivalent to 10oz of 40% vodka which is 650 calories.

In the states, people that don't want anything but the vodka calories mix vodka with 0 calorie club soda. The drink is called a Skinny Bitch.

In the states, high ABV beers are commonplace.

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Yep my ephinany in life was many years ago on a trip that included several days though the very wierd & low alcohol territory of Utah. We ended up for a last night in Salt Lake city just to use the airport the next day with zero expectations. 650ml bottles of the most magnificent 9%+ beer arrived at the table that night (firestone doublejack plus others) and I praised the lord. It's pretty common in the uk now.

For any concerns about not enough calories. This was ok beer food:
Gumbolaya14: Our famous Jambalaya smothered in Gumbo to ensure full cardiac arrest.

I had to check and it's still going.
https://www.utahbayou.com/

No, I was just asking. Seems odd to see a cardiologist that regularly if you don't have a specific heart issue. I wasn't sick or fat-shaming you.

I will state that you are hyper-sensitive. I bet you don't like that a vodka/soda is called a Skinny Bitch, do ya? You need to virtue signal to all the skinny blondes at the bar.

A little something for everyone...

Nothing but pure vegetarian (AKA QP and Lady Friend's Plant Based)

Move on from calling each-other fat and throwing shade. It's certainly illuminating in regards to the thread topic, but it's also childish and useless.

Obese is the medical term for fat. It's pretty clear that anyone who gets offended at being labeled fat is even more offended at being labeled obese. Many medical professionals today do not use the term obese when addressing an obese patient's condition, so we're running out of terms pretty quickly. Like Carlin said, we're trying to change a medical condition by changing the name of the condition.

Man some of you guys really need to rethink your relationship with alcohol.

I drink about 5 or 6 IPA's in a year. Should I increase or decrease? What exactly do you mean?