BAHAHAHA. Actual full throated support for McCarthyism in this thread, but you're right QP, its the LIBERALS who are the real problem here.

A bigot might be told he's mean and that might make him big sad and support killing gays (ya know, because the left wouldn't let him be a bigot in peace) and that is MUCH WORSE than someone who openly supports literal ****ing mccarthyism.

You have lost the entire plot, QP. The fact that you would never disagree with 57 here because he hates the left as much as you makes that clearly evident.

Slighted didn't once say this. Once a liar, always a liar, right?

Cancel culture has always existed. It's just that the people that have historically done the cancelling are now the ones getting cancelled so they don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot.

Who is being cancelled here?

Haha yeah.Cancel culture is a new clear and present danger, says people who are willing to go as far as lightly admonish McCarthyism.

These are private companies, sir, they can do whatever they want.

I tend not to agree with QP on several issues but it's the far left that has been criticised not the left in general.

You also misrepresent 57 as this

Is not someone who "openly supports literal ****ing mccarthyism.!

I have no time for say, Anne Coulter, But I agree with her opinion that Amanda Knox is guilty. Doesn't mean I support her. Same principal applies here. Just as the distinction between far left and left applies to your other comment re QP.
Also from wiki on McCarthy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph...Investigations

So it's clearly debatable anyway and not what you allege.

I thought we were proposing laws to force twitter to guarantee Trump and Alex Jones verified twitter accounts.

Yes but his take on McCarthy being correct is scorching white hot, a total fantasy (you like those) and justifies the draconian measure McCarthy put in place to combat said fantasy, because it combated the Maoists and Stalinists.

So yes it clearly is a support of Mccathythyism, extension of argument is not your strong point.

Or its fine to use state power to cancel people I dont agree with even when the suggestion they are disagreeing with me is mostly paranoia anyway.

Also lol at one cite from one guy on wiki, you realise you can always find that right?

There will always 100% of the time be some historian who claims that the consensus on X is incorrect because reasons.

Took you very temporarily off ig just to state that you're a Communist apologist so have some neck going on about draconian measures. I remember your soft soap from the communism thread.

You're clearly a far left extremist brushing off genocide with the excuse that modern commies are like totally hyper aware of past failures and stuff.... So nobody sane cares what you burble.
Anyway back on ig you go and stop following me around like some narky ankle nipping jack russel, it makes you look obsessive, just a heads up.

Yes so just a completely wiffed personal attack.

If I had to be put in a poltical box, my views are probably closest to anarchism in that I believe in small government and local participative direct democracy.

Communism is the anti thesis of my world view, and anarchists are always the ones communists kill first.

You are simply not a very educated or intellectual person and most people can see how horribly shallow your arguments are on any topic you barge into.

You frothing lunatic defence of no structural racism in Ireland was a lone stand no one agreed with not even lag tight.

Also lol at the idea I am stalking you, I am just replying to a post in a thread I am active in.

You made a knuckle dragging defence of 57 and I was just pointing out how ignorant it was.

At least there is one thing we can put in the plus column for the communists.

So you think people who run co ops should be killed?

Being cancelled would not go far enough?

Co op's are run on anarchist principles, anarchism is probably one of the most common form of political social and commercial organisation in the world, Its so benign and it flies so much under the radar that people are hardly aware of its existence.

It really does not take much to get right wingers to charge into this thread, defend the use of the State to repress individual liberties (mcarthysim) and advocate murder.

Its just a really casual reflex for them.

Anarchism does need a rebrand though, because the last thing it stands for is actual anarchy.

How on earth did you just completely ignore this?



That is 100% support of McCarthy's actions in the 50s.

What the ****ing ****?

No you are just lying now as you don't like the truth and do not think you can defend the truth so, like Trolly, you are trying to spin it and throw shade to protect what is being done.


This is NOT just about allowing him to stay home and not get paid.


What is being asked for by outside lefty groups is to ferret out his thoughts and figure out his reasoning for not wanting (at worst) to be a forced Avatar of any issue or cause he does not support.

"...Rogue Direct, a French group fighting homophobia in sports, called on P.S.G. and the league to find out why Gueye missed the Pride game two years in a row..."


The far left has moved from:

- you must not vocalize any thing bigoted against our community (good)
- you must not try to block any support actions for our community (good)

To now:

- you must be willing to wear any and all proclamation of support for our community or participate in any of the visible activities that will show you support us
- we must know your thoughts and if not in support we must out that to the community.


And make no mistake, I think no one on the left or even centre in this forum will see or speak out about the lines being crossed here that now demand 'active support' and 'thought policing' as the next targets for the culture war. I absolutely only expect the left and center posters here to gaslight and throw shade and excuse it away as this side of the forum is so far gone to the far left (or silenced by them) that they just don't want to be a target.

It is pathetic.

Someone like laggy (as much as I hate religion) should be able to opt out of wearing a Pride Pin at work and especially out in public events and to also use his sick days or any other day off to stay out of the office if the office chooses to throw a big support event for something that goes against his religion.


If he does so silently and without pushing back on any of it happening, in a way that allows him to live to his morals while not impeding you or others from doing same, that MUST be preserved and respected.

But the far left cannot stand the idea of a quietly bigoted person, who is able to remain off the radar because they respect others rights to live their differently. They want those people 'found', 'policed' and 'outed' for villication.

Society has to have room for people to have and hold bigoted thoughts who do not act upon them in any way that impacts or restricts or harms others.

Stop LYING. Just stop it.

This is the issue and not your made up gaslighting one that this is about the company ask...

"...Rogue Direct, a French group fighting homophobia in sports, called on P.S.G. and the league to find out why Gueye missed the Pride game two years in a row..."


This is a call by a leftist organization to interrogate and find out what the person is thinking, as they notice him not showing up on a day where he would be adorned with a cause they suspect goes against his religion.

Everyone on the left would support the idea of a leftist staying home (or kneeling on the sideline) if his League and Company decided to go all in on the Iraq War, 'We support the Troops' propaganda. It would be seen as a fair compromise for a person who did not share those values to just stay home and shut up. Heck it would be seen as fair for that leftist to kneel in a way to show he did not agree with the corporate position.


And yet here you all are so lost in the Culture Wars you become complete hypocrites when the script is flipped.


(and i know your response will be 'only the things I think important matter enough that compliance should be mandated. The stuff the right supports should not be, while you cannot understand why the right feels the same way and we are stuck here)

Leftists would support leftist causes, incredible insight.

Show ONE ****ING INSTANCE where I said that the football player must comply.

ONE, you lying ****ing scumbag.

I said he is absolutely free to not wear the uniform, and his employer is absolutely free to decide he does not get to play on the day, the group who wants to know why he sat out is absolutely free to question both the player and the employer for the reasoning, and the employer is absolutely free to not provide a satisfying answer to the group. In EVERY SINGLE INSTANCE I am not advocating for even a modicum of compliance.

You lie, continually, about this **** because you know you don't have a leg to stand on and "People on the left think that you should be able to do what you want and that also there may be consequences for actions that society finds distasteful" isn't a compelling ****ing story for your narrative.

Oh **** ya'll, QP is right.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...024549533.html

Look at our man Dave Chapelle CANCELLING his alma mater. We are truly in the end of days.

Chappelle is cool and correct. and YOU guys are assclowns.

edit - wrong thread

My example was perfect.

Your integrity is what is lacking.

Mike Lindell CANCELED by wallmart..

Lindell told Insider that Walmart would "never get to sell MyPillows again." "What they did is inexcusable! It's cancel culture, and you don't get to come back," he added.


won't someone think of the myPillow election guy!!..

imagine being on the same side of an argument as this assclown..

McCarthyism is an example of cancel culture and we're assured (by the benevolent left) in this thread that no such concept exists in real life.

it is that you do not understand how this fuels the fare right and culture war that is the problem.


You believe being 'left' means you actively support, defend, provide shade for, or at least stay silent on the worst left positions because 'sides'.

Trolly : it is a good thing for outside groups to demand to know the thoughts of anyone who will not wear visible items of support in public for our lefty causes

Also Trolly : it is wrong for outside groups to demand to know the thoughts of anyone who might not want to wear a 'We support the police' or other such 'cause' symbols in public and if a person on the left wants to show very visibly they disagree things like kneeling need to be tolerated.


It is impossible for lefties and those who support to decry such hypocrisy because 'sides' and that only fuels the right. And it should.

While I don't agree with anything on the far right, we certainly need a very strong oppositional right as it is proven fact that left and centre left are completely cowed and would willingly allow the worst offenses on the left and then provide cover for them.