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11-04-2019 , 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by SiMor29
Oh dear, my local MP(Tory) just had to stand down for groping an MP in a commons bar.
He is a ****ing horrible individual. A sex pest that is swinging on Boris Johnson's ballsack when he isn't touching blokes up in pubs and bars.
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11-04-2019 , 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoopie1
He is a ****ing horrible individual. A sex pest that is swinging on Boris Johnson's ballsack when he isn't touching blokes up in pubs and bars.
Oh absolutely, I've seen his voting record, he's a toady of the highest order.
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11-04-2019 , 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by SiMor29
Oh dear, my local MP(Tory) just had to stand down for groping an MP in a commons bar.
He’s a very weird guy. Isn’t this the 2nd time he’s done this?
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11-04-2019 , 10:33 AM
Yes, he did it earlier this year in a pub near Westminster.
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11-04-2019 , 03:35 PM
Someone really ought to leak this report, since the government's illegally sitting on it till after the election. (Gosh, I can't think why that might be.) The chairman of the Commons committee, who's a former attorney general and current Independent MP, and who could offer a bulletproof public-interest defence if the government tried to prosecute him, might be a candidate to have a go at that.

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11-04-2019 , 04:00 PM
I posted earlier about Ian Murray, the MP with the safest seat in the country that Corbyn's Unite henchmen tried to deselect (and failed miserably). It's clear from Murray's election materials that he knows what's needed to win again...and it's not mentioning Labour.

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11-04-2019 , 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 57 On Red
There's quite an interesting article about how the GB regions break down electorally. Johnson is essentially taking on the same targets as May -- smaller Leave towns in Labour areas oop North. It's quite a fine calculation, because those voters are so tribally Labour that they might have voted BXP but would on no account vote Tory. Meanwhile Johnson could have chunks taken out of him by the Lib Dems in more liberal Tory areas in the South.



https://www.politics.co.uk/comment-a...st-volatile-el

The polls suggest a Tory majority, but for various reasons it's tricky.
That article is pure wishful thinking if they think pro-Remain tactical voting is going to win seats that voted Leave in 2016 - such as Lib Dem target number 4, St. Ives which was 55-45 Leave.

In fact, I think the reverse applies. Because of the differing enthusiasm/anger levels of Leavers/Remainers with the current situation, I'd say the breakeven point between a seat being practically counted as "leave" rather than "remain" for the purpose of deciding whether the MP or candidate's position is a liability rather than an asset is something like 60-40 majority for Remain. There are only 100 seats in total with more than a 60-40 leave vote of which, 40 are outside England, 60 of them are in England, mostly in London and university cities.

So for example they mention Chingford with 52% Remain in the referendum, that place is going to have more angry leavers than unhappy remainers voting on that basis.

IMHO That's why the polls are as they are.
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11-06-2019 , 10:50 AM
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11-06-2019 , 03:21 PM
how can people vote for this cons government. Some parts i can see are appealing to voting for cons but this government just seems evil scum. Forever lying, misleading, insulting and just clearly not giving a **** about general population. Wtf is so appealing about them. Theyre horrible.

JRM, what a nobhead.
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11-06-2019 , 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by LektorAJ
That article is pure wishful thinking if they think pro-Remain tactical voting is going to win seats that voted Leave in 2016 - such as Lib Dem target number 4, St. Ives which was 55-45 Leave.

In fact, I think the reverse applies. Because of the differing enthusiasm/anger levels of Leavers/Remainers with the current situation, I'd say the breakeven point between a seat being practically counted as "leave" rather than "remain" for the purpose of deciding whether the MP or candidate's position is a liability rather than an asset is something like 60-40 majority for Remain. There are only 100 seats in total with more than a 60-40 leave vote of which, 40 are outside England, 60 of them are in England, mostly in London and university cities.

So for example they mention Chingford with 52% Remain in the referendum, that place is going to have more angry leavers than unhappy remainers voting on that basis.

IMHO That's why the polls are as they are.
No.
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11-06-2019 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Husker
Yep, confirmed that every single SNP candidate is crowdfunding for the election, including Ian '5 jobs' Blackford.
Do they accept payments in euros?
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11-06-2019 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by PartyGirlUK
British politics would be healthier for the next few years if "Lansman"'s move against Watson succeeded. Discuss.
More true than ever.

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11-06-2019 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
Do they accept payments in euros?
Well you have Chris Law who lives in a £600k castle and has the begging bowl out. Maybe he'd accept payment in petrol for the Aston Martin DB9 that he drives?







Just to add another little bit of info on this one, he claimed 3 years ago the castle would be used as a facility for children with Special Needs but this appears to have been forgotten about now that he's moved in

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news...ayside-castle/
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11-06-2019 , 05:16 PM
The state of that ****.
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11-06-2019 , 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoopie1
The state of that ****.
Agreed. And he's a bit of a state as well...
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11-07-2019 , 02:27 AM
lol
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11-07-2019 , 03:24 AM
Ian Austin going in with studs up on Corbyn this morning...
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11-07-2019 , 06:53 AM
**** every single person who has spend the four+ years trolling, lying about and race-baiting Britain's Jews.

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11-07-2019 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by LektorAJ
That article is pure wishful thinking if they think pro-Remain tactical voting is going to win seats that voted Leave in 2016 - such as Lib Dem target number 4, St. Ives which was 55-45 Leave.

In fact, I think the reverse applies. Because of the differing enthusiasm/anger levels of Leavers/Remainers with the current situation, I'd say the breakeven point between a seat being practically counted as "leave" rather than "remain" for the purpose of deciding whether the MP or candidate's position is a liability rather than an asset is something like 60-40 majority for Remain. There are only 100 seats in total with more than a 60-40 leave vote of which, 40 are outside England, 60 of them are in England, mostly in London and university cities.

So for example they mention Chingford with 52% Remain in the referendum, that place is going to have more angry leavers than unhappy remainers voting on that basis.

IMHO That's why the polls are as they are.
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Originally Posted by 57 On Red
No.
Yes.

https://www.opinium.co.uk/wp-content...19-Tables.xlsx

Table GEN1 has
Which of the following are you most likely to base your vote on - Brexit

broken down (based on answers to other questions) as

Diehard Remainer 59 of the 105 will vote mainly on this issue.
Concerned Remainer 208 of 501
Persuadable Remainer 28 of 134
Subtotal 295 of 740 will vote primarily for Remain

Persuadable Leavers 47 of 214 (now favours soft Brexit - this group is made up of about 50-50 leave/remain voters from 2017, the other groups haven't changed overwhelmingly)
Compromise Leavers 98 of 249
Diehard Leavers 314 of 522
Subtotal 412 of 771 (or 459 of 985 if we include the persuadable leaver group)

So based on this poll overall there are 1.40 times (or 1.56 times) as many people voting primarily based on Leave sentiment as there are people voting primarily based on Remain sentiment.

In other words, a constituency which is originally made up of 58-42 (or 61-39) Remain voters is for the purposes of this election actually neutral ground. If it has a higher number of Remain voters then its an advantage to be a Remain MP or candidate there. If it has a lower number of Remain voters than that its an advantage to be a Leave MP or candidate there. There are about 100 seats in the UK which re thought to have voted by more than 60-40 to remain, only 60 of which are in England, mostly in London and the university cities. All the places in the SE of England which voted narrowly to remain by margins like 52-48 are going to have more Leave voters. It's fantasy for the Lib Dems to think seats like that can be won by pro-Remain tactical voting though they will undoubtedly do well in London.

Someone recently posted on facebook that the election will be an opportunity for politicians to learn how the country they live in differs from their Twitter timeline, it's no surprise that arch-remainer Tom Watson has pulled out after a couple of days campaigning in a seat that voted 68-32 to leave.

Hopefully the takeaway from this election will be that the Left will finally learn that if they hand the Union Jack to the right it's going to get waved back at them in their faces.
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11-08-2019 , 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by LektorAJ
Yes.

https://www.opinium.co.uk/wp-content...19-Tables.xlsx

Table GEN1 has
Which of the following are you most likely to base your vote on - Brexit

broken down (based on answers to other questions) as

Diehard Remainer 59 of the 105 will vote mainly on this issue.
Concerned Remainer 208 of 501
Persuadable Remainer 28 of 134
Subtotal 295 of 740 will vote primarily for Remain

Persuadable Leavers 47 of 214 (now favours soft Brexit - this group is made up of about 50-50 leave/remain voters from 2017, the other groups haven't changed overwhelmingly)
Compromise Leavers 98 of 249
Diehard Leavers 314 of 522
Subtotal 412 of 771 (or 459 of 985 if we include the persuadable leaver group)

So based on this poll overall there are 1.40 times (or 1.56 times) as many people voting primarily based on Leave sentiment as there are people voting primarily based on Remain sentiment.

In other words, a constituency which is originally made up of 58-42 (or 61-39) Remain voters is for the purposes of this election actually neutral ground. If it has a higher number of Remain voters then its an advantage to be a Remain MP or candidate there. If it has a lower number of Remain voters than that its an advantage to be a Leave MP or candidate there. There are about 100 seats in the UK which re thought to have voted by more than 60-40 to remain, only 60 of which are in England, mostly in London and the university cities. All the places in the SE of England which voted narrowly to remain by margins like 52-48 are going to have more Leave voters. It's fantasy for the Lib Dems to think seats like that can be won by pro-Remain tactical voting though they will undoubtedly do well in London.

Someone recently posted on facebook that the election will be an opportunity for politicians to learn how the country they live in differs from their Twitter timeline, it's no surprise that arch-remainer Tom Watson has pulled out after a couple of days campaigning in a seat that voted 68-32 to leave.

Hopefully the takeaway from this election will be that the Left will finally learn that if they hand the Union Jack to the right it's going to get waved back at them in their faces.
No.
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11-08-2019 , 04:21 PM
Some 75 out of 76 polls in the last two years have consistently shown a majority for Remain. Just in case anyone doesn't know what I'm talking about. This is the most recent poll and it is solidly on-trend.

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11-08-2019 , 05:24 PM
^^^That doesn't disprove his point at all unfortunately
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11-09-2019 , 08:24 AM
Antisemitism in the Labour Party has justly had a lot of attention here; less so the Tories' Islamophobia.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/201...-isolate-warsi


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Tory Islamophobia row: Warsi accuses Hancock of 'whitesplaining'

Warsi hits back at minister for saying ‘others take a more balanced approach’ than Muslim peer


Sayeeda Warsi has denounced her Conservative party colleague Matt Hancock for “whitesplaining” Islamophobia to her after he suggested “there are others who take a more balanced approach” to the issue.

Lady Warsi responded furiously to Hancock, the health secretary, after his comments on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme while addressing the Conservative party’s decision not to hold an inquiry into Islamophobia.

Challenged on Warsi’s strident criticism of her own party’s record on discrimination against Muslims, Hancock had said: “Well look, I like Sayeeda. She has a particular view on this, there are others who take a more balanced approach.”

Asked if he was saying she was “unbalanced”, Hancock replied: “No, I’m certainly not saying that. I have an enormous amount of respect for Sayeeda but she does take a particular view.”

Hours later, Warsi tweeted:



A former minister and Tory party chair, Warsi has been a vocal critic of the party’s approach on tackling cases of Islamophobia. On Friday, after Boris Johnson confirmed there would be no inquiry into Islamphobia before Christmas, she wrote on Twitter: “Yes disappointing. Yes predictable. Yes it’s true my party don’t give a — about racism within our own ranks. We are only anti-racist to score political points. Do as we say not as we do.”

Responding on Twitter to Hancock’s comments, Miqdaad Versi, the director of the media monitoring team for the Muslim Council of Britain, said Hancock was trying to pretend Warsi was isolated in her criticism.

“The reality is that evidence of the scale of Islamophobia in the party is huge albeit under-reported and deniers of its scale should be challenged with the truth,” he tweeted.
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11-09-2019 , 09:20 AM
It's uncanny how often that, when your first impression of an MP is they are a useless tosser, that judgement is confirmed.

When you look at the likes of Francois, Grayling and Hancock, it's amazing they can even dress themselves in the morning, never mind make it to Westminster and the cabinet.
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11-09-2019 , 12:07 PM
Hancock is probably smart and reasonable (on some level), but defending Boris Johnson and the Tory party necessitates be-clowning yourself.
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