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06-13-2022 , 09:50 AM
This is traditionally the point where I remind you that this is a minor thread on a small poker forum, and whatever your fantasies may be its effect on the thoughts of the UK electorate is virtually zero.
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06-13-2022 , 10:00 AM
Individually it may be small so but so is nearly everything in democratic politcs and it adds up to nearly everything

This sort of nonsense is what most people heard during the brexit debate. They still hear it. Too late for brexit but there will be somwthing else and why on earth would they take the remotest notice of what anyone says?
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06-13-2022 , 10:14 AM
No, I think many things have a demonstrably huge effect on how people vote, several orders of magnitude greater than anything typed in this thread.

Isn't that your whole argument about Labour needing more actual policy?
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06-13-2022 , 10:16 AM
I meant things done by everyday individuals within the democracy
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06-13-2022 , 03:38 PM
Even supposedly mighty Twitter is in reality a bit of a middle-class niche thing, and even the mainstream journalists who amplify it by reporting on Twitter spats are operating in a bit of a middle-class niche. A US poker site with Putinazis and 'liberal arts' wokers foaming at the mouth is... even more niche.
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06-14-2022 , 04:03 PM
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06-15-2022 , 05:28 AM
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06-15-2022 , 10:48 AM
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06-15-2022 , 12:53 PM
With no empty seats I trust
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06-15-2022 , 02:45 PM
The whole Rwanda thing really has been a great squirrel for Johnson
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06-15-2022 , 02:58 PM
Johnson is somewhat disadvantaged by comparing himself to Churchill, who was instrumental in creating the Council of Europe and the European Convention on Human Rights (itself partly written by Tory MP and former Nuremberg prosecutor David Maxwell Fyfe) and of course the European Court of Human Rights.
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06-16-2022 , 04:51 AM
His attitude to GFA and ECHR are like those of a petulant teenager. What a twat.
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06-16-2022 , 05:00 AM
And because some of the asylum seekers got a reprieve from the Rwanda deportation by being referred to the regulations that prevent a victim of modern slavery from being deported, Pritti Awful is now considering tightening the criteria, potentially preventing people here from escaping modern slavery.

Slavery in 2022, brought to you by the Tories in the far right hellhole.
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06-16-2022 , 06:51 AM
The Rwanda thing is particularly hateful, in all uses of the word.
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06-17-2022 , 02:37 PM
At least Julian won't be going there.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-61839256

Although he will be taking a plane trip

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06-17-2022 , 03:24 PM
The legal product over yet

There's still some hope for a decent outcome
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06-17-2022 , 06:09 PM
Hmmmm



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06-19-2022 , 06:56 AM
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06-20-2022 , 08:33 AM
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06-20-2022 , 01:21 PM
Excellent article in the FT about how Brexit is going

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06-20-2022 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by diebitter
The Rwanda thing is particularly hateful, in all uses of the word.
I've read that one of the proposed deportees is a former Iranian policeman who was sacked and threatened because he refused orders to fire on an anti-government demonstration. No offence to Rwanda, but why send him there? It won't stop the people-traffickers as advertised, it's too hokey and appealable. It's a very strange policy indeed, and the ECHR only barred the flight because the UK courts themselves have not yet ruled it legal. The hearing will happen later this summer.

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06-20-2022 , 02:44 PM
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Hmmmm



There is, pretty certainly, something quite personally and sexually odd about some of the SNP's ruling clique, very much including Sturgeon, which, if we only knew it, might be quite interesting.
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06-20-2022 , 04:01 PM
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There is, pretty certainly, something quite personally and sexually odd about some of the SNP's ruling clique, very much including Sturgeon, which, if we only knew it, might be quite interesting.
Funnily enough my own MP (SNP) is also currently under investigation for sexual misconduct.
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06-21-2022 , 05:22 AM
And yet more double standards. Sturgeon, rightly, called on the government to release details of the probe into Priti Patel's bullying but won't release any details on their own MP's and MSP's even where they are found to be guilty. A government mired in scandal, secrecy and attempted cover ups.

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06-21-2022 , 05:33 AM
Well done Mick Lynch for maintaining a dignified front in the face of the usual barrage of lies from Tory Chris Philp last night on Newsnight.
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