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12-12-2019 , 09:31 PM


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12-12-2019 , 09:31 PM
Scottish independence almost a certainty now. Northern Ireland about to get real messy real quick.
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12-12-2019 , 09:36 PM
Englexit
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12-12-2019 , 10:00 PM
Labour take Putney with a swing of +6%

Guess what - it was a remain area. Does anyone seriously think the good people of Putney love JC and left wing policies so much more than people from up north?

tories take Wrexham for 1st time ever - guess what ... oh never mind ...
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12-12-2019 , 10:28 PM
Scexit doesn't have the same ring as Brexit.
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12-12-2019 , 11:19 PM
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Scottish independence almost a certainty now. Northern Ireland about to get real messy real quick.
Two Questions From Across The Pond ...

If Scottish independence and a resumption of "The Troubles" are the end result of this conservative victory, have Boris Johnson and the Tories achieved a pyrrhic victory - a "victory" they may come to regret? Or, was a result like this an unavoidable (and inevitable) necessity in order to get some kind of resolution to the Brexit imbroglio?
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12-12-2019 , 11:31 PM


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12-12-2019 , 11:47 PM
Swinson lost
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12-13-2019 , 12:02 AM
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Two Questions From Across The Pond ...

If Scottish independence and a resumption of "The Troubles" are the end result of this conservative victory, have Boris Johnson and the Tories achieved a pyrrhic victory - a "victory" they may come to regret? Or, was a result like this an unavoidable (and inevitable) necessity in order to get some kind of resolution to the Brexit imbroglio?
"The troubles" will never return as they were in the past but the good friday peace agreement included the option for a border poll which Is now probably just a matter of time, if/when it happens loyalists will be chomping at the bit to get on the streets. Conservatives don't give a **** about N.I, a recent poll had something like 60-70% perfectly happy to lose N.I to get Brexit done.

Boris Johnson would say anything/do anything to be PM. Cameron said he had conversations with Boris about Brexit before the referendum and he laughed at how it would fail. He was only endorsing /campaigning for it so he could gain some political capital from the leavers whilst never having to deal with the consequences but then the brexit vote really does go through and here we are.

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Swinson lost
Good, she's a vile neo con.
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12-13-2019 , 12:09 AM
Scotxit sounds better though.
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12-13-2019 , 12:12 AM
As well as JS
zak goldsmith lost
Dodds (the dup chap) lost

A few moments of cheer
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12-13-2019 , 12:18 AM
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As well as JS
zak goldsmith lost
Dodds (the dup chap) lost

A few moments of cheer


I live in North Belfast and voted against Dodds
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12-13-2019 , 12:46 AM
Nice one.
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12-13-2019 , 01:14 AM
Tories taking Bolsover is astonishing.
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12-13-2019 , 01:19 AM
Was this Corbyn guy liked by anyone?
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12-13-2019 , 01:27 AM
Ken Livingstone?
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12-13-2019 , 03:00 AM
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Ken Livingstone?
Just woken to see his "The Jewish vote wasn't very helpful" quote.

Pidcock losing her seat has provided a small level of entertainment.
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12-13-2019 , 03:10 AM
corbyn getting destroyed (in part) by the brexit he’s been in favour of his entire life, and could barely be bothered to campaign against when he was forced to, is pretty funny
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12-13-2019 , 03:18 AM
Astonishing how people can handwave this level of left-wing racism as a conspiracy theory, but here we are.
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12-13-2019 , 05:17 AM
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Boris Johnson would say anything/do anything to be PM.[...]
A fair assessment. Then again, Corbyn's approach was to commit as little as possible to the hot button issue.

Brexit was on the table, one party had a clear message, the other refused to commit.

People might not agree with the message he stood for, but on this specific issue, Boris' approach was far more fair. The voters knew what their vote would stand for on Brexit.
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12-13-2019 , 05:22 AM
Meanwhile the conservatives have to apologise for the extensive, well documented islamophobia in their party and there's not a peep out of you. It comes out BJ literally wrote a book in which Jews control the media and it barely moves the needle. Maybe because it's just a given that right wing toffs are racist so no one cares or maybe it's a positive among their base.
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12-13-2019 , 05:24 AM
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A fair assessment. Then again, Corbyn's approach was to commit as little as possible to the hot button issue.

Brexit was on the table, one party had a clear message, the other refused to commit.

People might not agree with the message he stood for, but on this specific issue, Boris' approach was far more fair. The voters knew what their vote would stand for on Brexit.
Labour needed both leavers and remainers, needed both those who desperately wanted a 2nd ref and those who loathed a 2nd ref. There was no answer to this problem except to try to deal with it outside an election- that was JC's failure along with Swinson and some others. They had the chance but they lacked the political will.

Once it got to an election then Labour were almost certain toast. Whichever path labour took people would condemn it as the wrong one because of how many voters it lost.


On the other side Boris/Cummings knew exactly what they were doing. They set up this election exactly as they wanted it.
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12-13-2019 , 05:27 AM
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Astonishing how people can handwave this level of left-wing racism as a conspiracy theory, but here we are.
Oh now they'll all say that maybe actually it's very real and that also they've said it was very real all along 😂
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12-13-2019 , 05:29 AM
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Labour needed both leavers and remainers, needed both those who desperately wanted a 2nd ref and those who loathed a 2nd ref. There was no answer to this problem except to try to deal with it outside an election- that was JC's failure along with Swinson and some others. They had the chance but they lacked the political will.

Once it got to an election then Labour were almost certain toast. Whichever path labour took people would condemn it as the wrong one because of how many voters it lost.
I don't disagree with that, it was politically between a rock and a hard place. Still, not very fair to the voter.

But at least now the Tory party must own Brexit and the potential deal in full. Let's hope this brings some sanity into how the issue is approached instead of full on kamikaze.
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12-13-2019 , 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by tame_deuces
A fair assessment. Then again, Corbyn's approach was to commit as little as possible to the hot button issue.

Brexit was on the table, one party had a clear message, the other refused to commit.

People might not agree with the message he stood for, but on this specific issue, Boris' approach was far more fair. The voters knew what their vote would stand for on Brexit.
Neutral position - i.e. abstentions on Brexit is fine. Blocking it and putting it on the table in an early election called for that purpose then having a neutral position is stupid.

It should have been off the table already by now.

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Meanwhile the conservatives have to apologise for the extensive, well documented islamophobia in their party and there's not a peep out of you. It comes out BJ literally wrote a book in which Jews control the media and it barely moves the needle. Maybe because it's just a given that right wing toffs are racist so no one cares or maybe it's a positive among their base.
Islam is a rival ideology to British conservatism. Should he also apologise for "Socialismaphobia"?

Also he wrote a book in which a character claims Jews run the media.

Keep on with this style of politics. You're doing great.
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