Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
British Politics British Politics

11-28-2019 , 06:26 PM
I think the outriders are used to the docile masses voting against their own best interests becuase of headlines perpetrated by tax evading billionaires
British Politics Quote
11-28-2019 , 09:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Pulaski
Any time there is a left-wing movement, there will be a few fringe crazies who don't have a solid class analysis and they'll end up at some stupid conspiracy theories about Jewish bankers and whatnot, but it's clearly not widespread or systemic. Go search threads on twitter and you'll see lists that anti-corbyn people have compiled and it's frankly so ****ing stupid it'd be funny if it wasn't so sad. The jig should be up when you keep seeing far right nationalists calling corbyn an anti-semite on twitter, but people literally have pudding for brains. Hurr Durr Jeremy Corbyn loves hamas x1000.

Partygirl was quick to jump on Ilhan Omar for accurately describing what the Israeli lobby does, so I'm sure he's gonna come back with some great examples on Corbyn. If you push labour anti-semitism, you're either a cynical liar or a naive rube who's just getting run over by propaganda.

To give you an example of how insane this whole thing has become, southern evangelicals in the US were calling it anti-semitic to call for Steven Miller's resignation after he was caught with white nationalist links.
Welcome Joe and your extremely on the money takes. Party girl is not cynical if you catch my drift.
British Politics Quote
11-28-2019 , 09:52 PM
The media outrage over the two Conservative candidates recently suspended for antisemitism has been deafening......oh wait.
British Politics Quote
11-28-2019 , 09:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PartyGirlUK
Labour are on course to lose every referendum, general, national and local election under racist grandpa and the outriders will shrug and say "Don't see what they could have done differently".
I wish basically anyone else was leader, but the antisemitism claims are just pure George Orwell and the fact that it has gained so much traction and done so much damage will be a virulent destructive cancer in our national politics for generations.
British Politics Quote
11-29-2019 , 01:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.A.F.K.1.1
The media outrage over the two Conservative candidates recently suspended for antisemitism has been deafening......oh wait.
Maybe it would have been louder if they hand't have been cos the leadership did nothing?
British Politics Quote
11-29-2019 , 02:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.A.F.K.1.1
I wish basically anyone else was leader, but the antisemitism claims are just pure George Orwell and the fact that it has gained so much traction and done so much damage will be a virulent destructive cancer in our national politics for generations.
Some other organisations and arguments you might be interested in:

Theflatearthsociety.org

Global warming conspiracy theory
British Politics Quote
11-29-2019 , 04:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PartyGirlUK
Hilarious, but scary.
If they'd have replaced him with a tub of lard it'd be funnier
British Politics Quote
11-29-2019 , 04:13 AM
Anti-semitism in labour is bad. Anti-islam ins the tories is also bad.

Us only actually talking about anti-semitism and labour though is much worse as it shows...

1) We expect and accept that the tories are anti-islam...and the people who consider voting for them (I guess everyone complaining about "racist grandpa"???) don't care

2) People care about anti-semitism but the general population doesn't really care about anti-islam racism, which is again, terrible

3) The anti-Corbyn voices are really good at focusing a message in the wider publics mind, and the pro-Corbyn voices are really bad at taking control of a narrative.

Whatever, it just sucks
British Politics Quote
11-29-2019 , 04:22 AM
Question for the conspiracy theorists: If antisemitism is a work of fiction, or not that bad, or w/e, why are the EHRC investigating and why have several Jewish MP quit the Labour Party over the issue?
British Politics Quote
11-29-2019 , 05:19 AM
Ringing endorsements of the leader from inside his own party: https://www.ft.com/content/7ca91884-...6-62bf4f9e548a
British Politics Quote
11-29-2019 , 05:33 AM
My question for the conspiracy theorists: why isn't Labour pressuring the EHRC to publish pre-election? Labour founded the EHRC, and still supports it. Doesn't claim it's a Zionist conspiracy*. The EHRC is investigating for systematic, institutional, widespread anti-Semitsm. They're not interested in if .06% of Labour members are AS or whatever. Why did none of you reaction to the EHRC investigation with joy? "We'll finally put the false accusation to rest?" etc. Why are the people and Jewish groups who think Labour is institutionally racist so keen for the EHRC to report?? Why did Labour moderates want to delay the general election until after the report? Why won't you state the EHRC will absolve Labour?

*That will come after the report.
British Politics Quote
11-29-2019 , 05:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoopie1
Ringing endorsements of the leader from inside his own party: https://www.ft.com/content/7ca91884-...6-62bf4f9e548a
Labour's strategy is smart - they have to assume the polls are inaccurate, or will move. Why allocate resources to scenarios where you're reducing the Tory majority from 60 to 50?
British Politics Quote
11-29-2019 , 05:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoopie1
And how has that worked out?
Sorry, missed your response yesterday

It's potentially working out as catastrophic Shakespearean level tragedy of falling to take the win because too many persuaded themselves they were winning battles that they were losing badly.
British Politics Quote
11-29-2019 , 08:17 AM
I know it's a bit in advance but are we going to do any games for election night like predict numbers of seats or individual seats? I can organise if people want.
British Politics Quote
11-29-2019 , 09:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elrazor
Some other organisations and arguments you might be interested in:

Theflatearthsociety.org

Global warming conspiracy theory
No u has never been more appropriate.
British Politics Quote
11-29-2019 , 09:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elrazor
Question for the conspiracy theorists: If antisemitism is a work of fiction, or not that bad, or w/e, why are the EHRC investigating and why have several Jewish MP quit the Labour Party over the issue?
Why cant anyone provide any evidence?

In before councillor nobody said something bad once.

Meanwhile the actual leader soon to be PM again of the Tory party is on record with several blatantly racist remarks.

hmmm seems like a consistent approach to both parties.
British Politics Quote
11-29-2019 , 09:47 AM
lol at the people calling an absolutely standard establishment smearing of a political candidate a conspiracy. Is this your first rodeo, dear god the naivety.

I guess its a conspiracy that the conservatives changed their twitter account to look like a fact checking account.
British Politics Quote
11-29-2019 , 09:56 AM
Noam Chomsky on the smear campaign against Labour:

Quote:
“an insult to the memory of victims of the Holocaust.”
British Politics Quote
11-29-2019 , 10:05 AM
Not a conspiracy at all, its an all out media / virtual army assault when you push that hot button and not take your finger off. Balsy thing to say and not something I would expect a future head of state to say openly and unapologetically. Only place I can see him not getting bashed for that would be if he was somehow running in Iran for PM
British Politics Quote
11-29-2019 , 10:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JodoKast
Not a conspiracy at all, its an all out media / virtual army assault when you push that hot button and not take your finger off. Balsy thing to say and not something I would expect a future head of state to say openly and unapologetically. Only place I can see him not getting bashed for that would be if he was somehow running in Iran for PM
EH?

What was balsy?
British Politics Quote
11-29-2019 , 10:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.A.F.K.1.1
Noam Chomsky on the smear campaign against Labour:
Left-wing Marxist anti-Semite defends left-wing anti-Semitism shocker.
British Politics Quote
11-29-2019 , 10:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elrazor
Left-wing Marxist anti-Semite defends left-wing anti-Semitism shocker.
You are saying he is racist against himself?

This is lazy unthinking unreflecting **** posting even by your incredibly low standards.

Also looool at the ignorance needed to call Chomsky a Marxist.
British Politics Quote
11-29-2019 , 10:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.A.F.K.1.1
EH?

What was balsy?
Stupid rather, making blanket statement about supposed zionists and their lack of British sense of humor and historical education. Its just very odd and makes no sense in any context.
British Politics Quote
11-29-2019 , 12:16 PM


Interested in predict number of seats type games.
British Politics Quote
11-29-2019 , 12:44 PM
I would definitely put those guys in the same intellectual bracket as Chomsky.
British Politics Quote

      
m