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Old 09-20-2020, 08:23 AM   #3051
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Made me think of this classic



"You really think so, I though support might be difficult!"
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Old 09-20-2020, 11:02 AM   #3052
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Douglas Ross really isnít doing the job they thought he would, heís all over the place. complete shitshow from Scottish conservatives
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Old 09-20-2020, 11:26 AM   #3053
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Of course it's trending, because there's enough people that can look at everything in context and realise it's the wrong thing to do. "But exponential rise in cases", he'd say. OK then:

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Old 09-20-2020, 11:52 AM   #3054
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It's been growing roughly exponentially since some time around the middle of August. The last week or so the growth appears to have halted somewhat but the daily number of cases is still 4 or 5x what it was at the beginning of August.

A second full lockdown shouldn't have been necessary (and hopefully still won't be) but the terrible messaging and complete lack of competency shown by the government has resulted in confusing guidelines. That, combined with the whole Cummings fiasco and an appearance of "one rule for us, another for them", has caused a lack of adherence to the measures supposed to keep the spread under control and consequentially there has been a rise in cases.
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Old 09-20-2020, 11:58 AM   #3055
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It's been growing roughly exponentially since some time around the middle of August. The last week or so the growth appears to have halted somewhat
So it was rising. Now it's not rising. Which is what viruses do:

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Old 09-20-2020, 12:08 PM   #3056
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He doesn't appear to know what exponential growth means. From another of the tweets in that thread:

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North West (increasing, although R falling so importantly growth is *not exponential*)
If R is above 1 then by definition cases are growing exponentially. The rate of growth might be declining (i.e. R is decreasing), but if R>1, which it is for the NW and was until this last week for the country as a whole, then the growth is still exponential.
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Old 09-20-2020, 12:24 PM   #3057
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A second full lockdown shouldn't have been necessary (and hopefully still won't be) but the terrible messaging and complete lack of competency shown by the government has resulted in confusing guidelines. That, combined with the whole Cummings fiasco and an appearance of "one rule for us, another for them", has caused a lack of adherence to the measures supposed to keep the spread under control and consequentially there has been a rise in cases.
I despair bit at this. Yes the messaging has been terrible, the guidelines confusing and Cummings not resigning was awful but it's all froth that makes a marginal difference to the re-mergence

Barring a lucky save with the vaccine, the re-emergence was inevitable once the government relaxed the lockdown. We have to reduce the number of cases with lockdown type measures and then only open up well within our ability to stamp out any new outbreaks fast.

Or we live with it. Messaging/etc wont stop it. Of course if we have to live with it then a competent government managing it would help a lot.
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Old 09-20-2020, 12:45 PM   #3058
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Of course it's trending, because there's enough people that can look at everything in context and realise it's the wrong thing to do. "But exponential rise in cases", he'd say. OK then:

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Yea not exponential. JFC crawl back in your ignorance cave.

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Old 09-20-2020, 12:48 PM   #3059
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The irony being the maskflakes are going to make a significant contribution to another lockdown by maskflaking.
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Old 09-20-2020, 02:51 PM   #3060
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Douglas Ross really isnít doing the job they thought he would, heís all over the place. complete shitshow from Scottish conservatives
It's because he looks like a PC World salesman.

But yeah, this isn't new, they've been a shitshow in Scotland for so long now because, to our credit, we never bought the brexit bullshit and as a party that's really all they have to offer.
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Old 09-20-2020, 04:57 PM   #3061
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There has been a slight uptick in the state of British politics today, because the government has rowed back from 'post-modern queer theory' and squelched the move to self-ID (whereby any huge hairy-bollocked bearded man demanding to be called Daphne could have automatically accessed women's single-sex spaces as defined and protected by the Equality Act 2010).

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Old 09-21-2020, 02:51 AM   #3062
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Joke that made me lol on the News Quiz this week (I'm paraphrasing): 'Priti Patel's biography should be called "The Female Enoch"
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Old 09-21-2020, 04:17 PM   #3063
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Theresa May is officially hacked off.

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Old 09-22-2020, 10:53 AM   #3064
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BoJo ritually humiliating himself will never get old for me.

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Old 09-22-2020, 05:06 PM   #3065
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Strewth, it's like he thinks Germans all go round goose-stepping or something. (While waving die-straight EU bananas, no doubt.) Actually the German Grundgesetz is a rather fine document, which Germans are rightly proud of, and you can buy it in paperback in any bookshop, which is more than you can do with our constitution.

Anyway his celebrated schtick is wearing thin with the public. They're still wary of Labour as a brand for obvious 'Let's send the nerve agent samples to Putin so he can tell us if he's guilty or not' reasons, but they like Starmer a fair bit better than Johnson.

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Old Yesterday, 01:04 AM   #3066
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Johnson still has the numbers for now, but his hold over the backbenchers is maybe not what it was.
That's putting it mildly. Conservative backbenchers are proving a far more robust opposition than Labour.
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You make some naked claims with no substantiation, as someone who believes the world is flat, no one is going to give any such assertions even the tiniest nano quantum of credit.
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[Imperial College epidemiologist Neil] Ferguson was behind the disputed research that sparked the mass culling of eleven million sheep and cattle during the 2001 outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease. He also predicted that up to 150,000 people could die. There were fewer than 200 deaths. . . .

In 2002, Ferguson predicted that up to 50,000 people would likely die from exposure to BSE (mad cow disease) in beef. In the U.K., there were only 177 deaths from BSE.

In 2005, Ferguson predicted that up to 150 million people could be killed from bird flu. In the end, only 282 people died worldwide from the disease between 2003 and 2009.

In 2009, a government estimate, based on Fergusonís advice, said a ďreasonable worst-case scenarioĒ was that the swine flu would lead to 65,000 British deaths. In the end, swine flu killed 457 people in the U.K.

Last March, Ferguson admitted that his Imperial College model of the COVID-19 disease was based on undocumented, 13-year-old computer code that was intended to be used for a feared influenza pandemic, rather than a coronavirus. Ferguson declined to release his original code so other scientists could check his results. He only released a heavily revised set of code last week, after a six-week delay.

So the real scandal is: Why did anyone ever listen to this guy?
https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...s-in-disgrace/

What, you didnt know this information?
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