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Originally Posted by Hoopie1
I'm not arguing that failing to win makes winning impossible, I'm arguing that it makes it very unlikely. I'm not sure how many more decades you want to go through where you continue to test this theory before accepting that it is likely to be correct.
Ok but I disagree that it's very unlikely. What is certain is that if we only have versions of what is basically thatcherism then we will definitely have a version of thatcherism. We will also have the accompanying anger and sense of hopelessness about politics that is very damaging.
I'm also of the view that radical change both is necessary and inevitable it's just a question of whether we will get ahead of some of it or not.
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Also, you are going to need to find a much better (more polished, likeable, credible) front for your operation than Corbyn and McDonnell. You might like them, but it isn't about you, it is about winning the centre voters around. Pidcock and Long-Bailey don't look like the answer either.
Quite possibly. JC is clearly very unpopular and that is a major problem. As is brexit is also a problem. Left wing policies on the other hand seem pretty popular with the biggest misgivings being about implementation
I find this debate kind of ill-conceived. If we stick to left wing policies (or not) we will win. Far more important is what we actually do once we win because at some point after that we will lose (and then win again one day and then lose again etc etc).