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Probably not.

If they took out a tracker when rates were 3% they’ve been quids in for a long time, and if they rise a lot it’s pay back time.

If they mortgaged themselves to the hilt at historically low rates without begin able to cover it if rates hit their historic average they’ve been caught being greedy. I’d like to think most people aren’t that stupid, but hey.

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10-09-2021 , 12:40 PM

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JWalker97

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Dorries 1 of the biggest nutters in cabinet history?

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10-09-2021 , 01:04 PM

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JWalker97

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2104 article about tories,

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/l...future-6507527

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libraries in Treherbert, Ton Pentre, Penygraig, Maerdy, Ynyshir, Cwmbach, Penrhiwceiber, Ynysybwl, Cilfynydd, Beddau, Tonyrefail and Nantgarw will close.

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day centres in Cymmer, Ynyshir, Ferndale, Treorchy, Pentre, Tonypandy Trealaw, Rhydyfelin and Beddau will shut.

There were also major changes announced to the meals on wheels service, which will see customers given chilled meals– delivered on a Friday– to heat up over the weekend.

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Deputy leader of Rhondda Cynon Taf council, Paul Cannon..... blamed the difficult decisions on austerity measures imposed by the Westminster Government

a leopard never changes its spots.

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10-09-2021 , 03:35 PM

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57 On Red

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Originally Posted by Husker

Anyone watching the 5 part Blair and Brown documentary that's on BBC2 (or was last night)?

Very good, it turns out. Kind of in the tradition of series like The Death of Yugoslavia. The archive montage is excellent (good grief, those awful six-button double-breasted estate-agent suits -- I'd forgotten all about those) and they've captured all the right present-day interviews. (Neil's looking an awful lot older than when I saw him last, which wasn't that long ago. Still, comes to us all.) They've also hit on the essential uselessness of John Smith, which is not generally recognised because people liked him, and the essential vanity of Gordon Brown. The charismatic, unknowable and slightly uncanny Blair is there, but may come out more in later episodes.

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10-09-2021 , 10:49 PM

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Pokerpops

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Originally Posted by jalfrezi

Probably not.

If they took out a tracker when rates were 3% they’ve been quids in for a long time, and if they rise a lot it’s pay back time.

If they mortgaged themselves to the hilt at historically low rates without begin able to cover it if rates hit their historic average they’ve been caught being greedy. I’d like to think most people aren’t that stupid, but hey.

Oh they are. Rather, most people are blind to the risks, ignorant of history and of the cyclical nature of the economic fundamentals.

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10-10-2021 , 02:51 AM

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joejoe1337

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Originally Posted by JWalker97

2104 article about tories,

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/l...future-6507527

a leopard never changes its spots.

This is incredibly naive. This is a fully devolved issue and, of course, local politicians are going to blame Westminster - it's a get out of jail free card for them.

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10-10-2021 , 02:02 PM

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SiMor29

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I see bojo is off on holiday again.

His thinly veiled contempt for those brexit voters who actually want to see him make a success of this brexit ordeal is striking.

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10-13-2021 , 06:30 AM

#4783

Pokerpops

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COVID response report makes uncomfortable reading for those who were making difficult decisions 18 months ago. Some benefits of hindsight, and it’s always easier to say what you would have done, than to actually have to do it.
As is ever the case there will be calls for resignations made by those whose own decision making capabilities are untested or dubious at best. Most will ignore the quality of the vaccine research and roll out, and will ignore the fact that Sweden’s anti-lockdown stance produced a lower deaths/million than ours.

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10-13-2021 , 07:10 AM

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O.A.F.K.1.1

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Originally Posted by Pokerpops

Its not correct to compare Sweden to UK due to different inflows of virus and variants, much better to compare it to other Scandinavian countries such as Norway, Denmark and Finland.

Relative to those countries, Sweden does very badly.

Even if you combine the cumulative DPM of those three countries it is still significantly less than Sweden's. 816 v 1467

It has also suffered more economic damage than those countries.

The rest of your post is the standard excuse making, hindsight claim has zero credibility because there was plenty of reasoned opinion expressing the need for other choices at the time super duper obvious mistakes were made.

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10-13-2021 , 12:23 PM

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Claudia Webbe is crazy - I legit think she might lose the whip/get triggered before the next parliament.

17/12/2019

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10-15-2021 , 03:26 AM

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PartyGirlUK

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Good lord

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10-15-2021 , 05:32 AM

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diebitter

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what a ****

Last edited by diebitter; 10-15-2021 at 05:32 AM. Reason: see you next tuesday

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10-15-2021 , 06:14 AM

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Christ, he's absolutely ****ing awful. I wouldn't put him in charge of a jumble sale, let alone one of only two parties in the UK that are in a position to win an election.

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10-15-2021 , 09:18 AM

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A tweet very clearly exposing some of the hypocrisy of the Scottish Greens. Quite a turnaround given both clips are this year. One prior to the election and one post election now that they have been given ministerial roles

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10-15-2021 , 09:51 AM

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This story about David Amess getting stabbed is terrible. He's being operated on at the scene, which doesn't seem to bode well.

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10-15-2021 , 10:13 AM

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Morphismus

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His Wikipedia page says he died.

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10-15-2021 , 10:15 AM

#4792

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His Wikipedia page says he died.

Yeah, he has.

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10-15-2021 , 12:25 PM

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Labour M.P

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10-15-2021 , 02:45 PM

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My wife met him a couple of times. Said he was a decent MP from the old school, but she disagreed with him about almost everything.

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10-16-2021 , 04:41 AM

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Been criticism for a while about the Scottish Government doing all it can to score highly on Stonewall's Workplace Equality Index. It's impact on policy is incredible and here's the latest example:

This was discovered after someone submitted a FOI. In every single case it seems to be women, rather than men, who are being marginalised here.

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10-17-2021 , 11:48 PM

#4796

SiMor29

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Quelle surprise.

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10-18-2021 , 12:45 AM

#4797

Elrazor

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Not surprising if you've ever set foot on a university campus.

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10-18-2021 , 03:20 AM

#4798

diebitter

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I'm surprised libDem is so high. Maybe they've finally shaken the whole 'they completely lied about student fees' brand

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10-18-2021 , 04:14 AM

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University of Life/School of Hard Knocks alumni don't appear to be that smart, their OFSTED ratings must be shocking.

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10-18-2021 , 08:01 AM

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chezlaw

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Likely a huge mistake to think it's mostly because educated people understand the issues better.

Ironically, it's the normality of that type of mistake by the educated that is probably a much bigger cause of the difference in voting outcome.

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