The next british MP could be Mr. Bean and you wouldn't notice difference. The goal is to delay Brexit as long as possible in order to wait for the public opinion to shift towards remain. They were hoping that their propaganda does the trick, but it didn't work, because it was too obvious.

Currently every social science institute in the western world is working 24/7 to come up with more effective concepts of persuasion. So far nothing better than the usual public smear campaign coupled with throwing milkshakes has popped up yet. This is also a sign for the current state of things. They get a ton of money, but are unable to produce results.

Probably just a return of the UK politics thread should do imo. Covers everything going forward.

lol

Is this correct?

This is what is happening in Slovakia where they count elections at the polling station level (so they're doing it right now) rather than bringing ballot boxes to central points. The statistical office will announce on Sunday at 23:00 CEST when Italy stops voting rather than releasing results gradually through the night as with any other election.

For the UK though, in the past it used to be the case that the ballot boxes were opened and certified on Thursday but the actual count happened on Sunday night to stop results for whole councils leaking out (presumably the result for one polling station - in my case it's only one street - in Slovakia isn't such a big thing).

At 7.45 pm my wife and I were the first people crossed off our page of the voter roll. Could be another record low turnout (Slovakia currently holds the EP record low at 13%)

Also some problems with foreigners not being allowed to vote:

https://www.aktuality.sk/clanok/6951...aj-americanka/ I'd explain, but the version butchered by google translate is actually more fun.

I got that a bit wrong but it still sounds like the results will come in (mostly) in one hit at 10pm. Unless they count very slowly.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-a4151626.html

Britain Elects forecast

Have a horrible feeling that brexit may do even better.

Massive for the remain/2nd ref camp if Lib Dems can manage to push labour into 3rd

Turnout is the other key figure.

I'd execpt turnout to be up everywhere. Just seen a tweet that in Edinburgh it was 50.2%, up from 41.6% previously.

grauniad unsurprisingly reporting on disgraceful rigging for remain parties

Chris Williams, an agent for the Green party in Leicester, has told the Guardian that he has seen scores of spoilt ballots, apparently forged by pro-Brexit voters.

Slogans such as ‘Brexit now’, ‘We need brexit’ and ‘We’ve already voted on this’ were scrawled next to Brexit, he said, but the electors neglected to vote for either Ukip or the Brexit party.

Williams had been checking the disputed ballots as part of his duties as an election agent, and also found one ballot which had ‘wank’ written in every single box apart from that of the Green party. The voter left a note saying ‘not wank’ for the environmentalist party which was deemed acceptable as a vote.

Projected share (~00:50am)

Brexit 32%
Lib Dems 20%
Lab 14%
Green 12%
Cons 9%

A shame Fiona Hall didn't get back in in the North East as was projected above.

Other than that, good results - parties taking a clear line based on honestly held beliefs rewarded - parties being duplicitous punished.

I do find it somewhat amusing that a bunch of the remain side is saying "but lib dem and green together etc is beating Brexit", when everyone knows that if team Remain were to get into any sort of position where they could do something, we'd see:

- the Lib Dems change their mind and say no, we'll actually Brexit, and by the way the cost of Brexit is increasing threefold
- the Greens will say that we'll still cancel Brexit, once we've got through the more pressing matters of turning all abandoned Debenhams stores into cycle hubs, filled the Cotswolds with wind turbines and made Nottinghamshire biodegradable
- Change UK will **** themselves once they realise they need to do anything other than write opinion pieces in the grauniad, splinter off and form The Independent Group 2 - Electric Boogaloo
- the SNP will be like "yep, we're remaining, but you guys south of Berwick are on your own"

Which basically leaves Kenneth Clarke to do everything

First point very much depends on who the next LD leader is but under a Cable-like leadership you're quite wrong.

Second point can only be made by someone who hasn't read the Green manifesto.

So... no.

It's lolz whenever anyone who didn't win says they did really

With the threats of ministers and backbench Tory MPs to revolt and vote the government down if it heads towards a no dea, it doesn't look as if your Brexit's happening in this Parliament, does it?

Labour down to 5th place in Scotland with 9.3% of the vote. Greens aren't far behind on 8% so it could've been worse.

lol

Farage, now branded as Brexit when he used to be UKIP, still representing the same ol' US and Russian dark-money interests, did about the same as he did in the 2014 elections. He got about one-third of the vote on about a one-third turnout, meaning that about 90% of the electorate did not vote for him. Apparently this means we have to proclaim him Caesar, although for one reason and another I've a feeling that may not actually happen.

Remain parties beat the hard-Brexit parties by about 40% to 35%.

Harold Wilson was egged in 1970 -- by Richard Ware, a racist protesting at the cancellation of a tour by the South African cricket team -- and Wilson characteristically just said it showed that people could afford to throw eggs away under Labour.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/d...00/3995083.stm

Labour MPs ought to vote no-confidence in Corbyn, and keep on doing it till they win, just as the House ought to keep voting no-confidence in the government under May's hopeless and foredoomed No-Deal successor. (It seriously does not matter who that is.)

They did, and they won.

He ignored it.

You have to be very careful when doing any type of unconventional voting. I saw a post on the tartan Army message board several years ago from someone who claimed that he was an invigilator at an election in which the Tory candidate successfully argued that a Swastika next to his name was a valid vote in his favour. No other mark was made on the paper.

Alastair Campbell kicked out of the Labour party for supporting the Lib Dems at the EU elections.

I think it's ott in principle but it's hard not to smile

Indeed, five days to get rid of Campbell but three years to get rid of Jackie Walker. Kate Hoey is still there too.

There's no rule against voting for other parties, only against campaigning for them. Kate Hoey, of course, continually and visibly campaigns for Farage. Not expelled, of course, because her Brexitard views align with the leader's. Even though her CLP voted no-confidence in her and the entire Vauxhall constituency, in every single ward, voted Lib Dem against her in the Euros, meaning large numbers of Labour members were voting Lib Dem. (As numerous Labour MPs and former ministers have admitted doing.)



In 2014, Andrew Fisher campaigned for the Class War candidate in Croydon South, against the Labour candidate Emily Benn, Tony Benn's granddaughter. Not only has Fisher not been expelled, he's in the leader's cronyist office on a £100,000 salary when rank-and-file party workers are striking against a derisory pay offer.