Not sure what you don't get. You made speculative claims on what he said or didn't about homosexuality. The incident and rhe quote you do attribute to him very likely didn't happen. That seems pretty noncontroversial.

That he didn't exist would be a miracle in itself given the documentary evidence. The Sabbath quotes are far more likely to be real....possibly the single most likely? Found in multiple gospels, including mark and the "the sabbath made for man not man for the sabbath, therefore the son of man is lord even of the sabbath" doesn't even really make sense in Greek (or English) but does in Aramaic. So is impossible impossible to be made up by scribes writing in Greek.

I'm not sure what your point is.
Do you think it is likely that Jesus did say something about homosexuality? I just said as far as we know, he had no animus against them, and you're arguing against that because...?

He almost certainly did as a religious jew who amassed some level of following in the first century. Just like we know he spoke Aramaic, probably Hebrew but not Greek.

Huh, well maybe so, but it seems to me he didn't seem to care much about Jewish law.

That's obviously one of the things that's going to be the hardest to find out. As christianity became more and more a non-jewish religion in the 50-300 years after jesus' death it became more and more advantageous for his followers, who were the only ones bothering to write down anything about him to de-emphasize his belief in jewish law. The later gospels verge into outright antisemitism in places. Better to blame jewish people than powerful roman authorities for something like the cruxifiction.

Makes perfect sense.

His disciples fell well short of his example, and that frailty was bound to find its way into the text.

I re-registered to vote today.

After many years of being a registered Republican, I am now a registered "No Party Preference."

In my opinion, neither party has earned nor deserves our votes.

I suspect the literal end of our nation is both clearly and nearly upon us.

R.I.P. United States of America.

Honest question....what can we do to get back to being a great nation again? To me it seems like the biggest thing missing is compromise. Personal attacks are much more prevalent than in times past, news coverage seems to be biased (on both sides), and people don't even try to understand someone else's viewpoint anymore. It's sad and i just don't see how we can recover or at least stop the divide at this point.

I don't think we were ever a "great nation."

In my view, compromise is the problem! Both parties strongly support perpetual war, increasing debt, increasing the size and scope of government, and the mass incarceration of millions of U.S. citizens.

The "solution" imo is to take away their power and influence by significantly taking away their access to the citizen's money.

#RepealtheIncomeTax
#AbolishtheIRS

Fund the federal government by way of tariffs, user-fees and and a so-called Geo-Tax (like Alaska has).

Some Republicans are currently pushing to abolish the income tax and replace it with a 30% national sales tax. They may have some kind of adjustments planned to help those of low income, but if not this would be hugely regressive.

I recall that Mike Huckabee supported this idea when he ran for the GOP nomination for Prez in 2008 or 2012.

That is insane. I would be happy never spending a dollar in the US ever again if that were to happen which fortunately it would not.

30% tax lol. I don't think that could be a real proposal.

There would be riots, the economy would shut down overnight and move underground and the black market for everything would thrive.

I think Huckabee's proposal that I mentioned was 20% at the most.

I'm not sure if what you're saying here is an argument for or against the 30% proposal.

While it is true most US consumers would react negatively, there is ultimately no difference between a national sales tax and a VAT.

for the record, these anti vaxxers had a point which you didn't understand, right? so it was like with Muller, just with you having the idiots end of the straight.

I got banned multiple times for saying holtzclaw was innocent and couldn't believe it. Michelle Malkin says he is innocent and a whole lot of other people. that call was nuts.

Yeah that was ridiculous. I don't really know anything about the Holtzclaw case but Kathleen Zellner's involvement definitely gives your position there some credibility, as she freed Ryan Ferguson and that case I followed very closely. And there is still an innocent person locked up there.

yea it was. Jason Flom founder of the Innocent Project was also involved with the case. And so many other people. Just looking at the evidence should bring claritiy to anyone having looked into the evidence. But if you said holtzclaw was innocent, you were against black people and againt BLM, so it was impossible to say it. (in a crazy world)

I also got banned for saying postle might be innocent, at the beggining of postlegate. They developed cult/sect like believes and when you said anything against it you ate a ban. Like in a cult!

Anyways, about postles innocent Im not so sure, He can also play real and they knew that and hyped him up.

With Holtzclaw Im 99% sure he is innocent and 100% he didnt get a fair trial.

Ryan Ferguson case has an innocent person still locked up?

https://www.columbiatribune.com/stor...s/69793227007/

Actually he was just released last month-- he's the guy who confessed to it and implicated Ferguson, except he's just crazy and didn't do it either.

Anyone could and would have seen the suprisingly not existing and weak evidence. holtzclaws was botched, it couldnt have been any more botched. BUT nobody wanted to see it. It was a show trial- made in hollywood. To satisfy the angry mob. It wasnt better than in the 1600s with a mob making a verdict. And BLM was guitly of making this a very unfair trial. (they were demonstrating in front of the courthouse and affected the judges and the jury, on what planet is that possible) I dont know whats up with this. Im for all races of course and only for justice but this case was a botched and coudlnt have been more biased and botched.

I honestly don't remember the discussion this way. I'm sure there were a couple of partisan cheerleaders who thought Mueller was going to be Trump's kryptonite, but I don't recall that being the mainstream view. I never thought that Mueller's report was going to bring down Trump. The actual report was in line with what I expected.

I think I remember..

sounds like the central park 5 case where corpusville and I got banned imo. We got banned because we didnt agree with the narrative.
There are millions of smart people including lawyers and judges who dont believe to the narrative PLUS the victim herself.