Never talk about politics, religion or money. Just let us take care of that stuff

Sincerely,

the mgmt

Not if you define "deserve" in the normal way. Capitalism does a very bad job of distributing income when it comes to the profession of athletics. Because it gives the overwhelming share of money to those who are lucky enough to have the talent to be in the top .001% in the sports that happen to be popular, and almost nothing to everyone else. If you are a great but not super great football player you make almost nothing as a player. And even if you are super great you make almost nothing if the world turns to soccer. There are very few other endeavors that are this skewed toward the tippy top luckiest.

Sorry, David, but I don't see much in this post that I agree with...

Luck is misunderstood, and a cop-out for many lazy and unsuccessful people.

"The harder I work, the luckier I get"

You see RB, this is the thing.

You expect people to be polite during the NA (as do I) because it's a matter of basic respect.

But then excuse people who show the same lack of respect by not being quiet during a 'moment of silence'.

You can't have it both ways. And no, neither one is really that big of a deal. I'm just making a point here.

I think a lot of nfl fans are old white men. A lot of old white men are racist.

It’s quite sad most people in America aren’t more empathetic. I’m all for people not being in agreement with kneeling for the anthem, etc. however do you really have to voice your opinion? Do people not see why it is being done? America is a super racist country. I blame old folks mainly bc they were raised in different times where bashing black people, gays, trans people was accepted.

It just bothers me that people say they will stop watching football bc someone kneels for the anthem. Is it me or is it sad that they find kneeling for the flag to
be so disrespectful. Like honestly, who the f cares? Do same people find it insane when black men are killed by cops in situations where whites wouldn’t be killed? America has many deep rooted problems and the election of Donald Trump really displays this.

anyone take a guess as to the % of white guys over 40 who are racist? probably at least 75%.

in a city like KC? probably > 90%

it never will as long as humans exist, for humans evolved to be tribalistic a$$ holes.

if somehow the concept of skin-color based "race" was washed from existence something else (like eye color) would take its place.

Just getting To the pros is usually an amazing accomplishment--even if every single pro worked equally as hard only a few are going to be at the very top/superstars money-wise--which in football is mostly QBs(the hardest working kicker on Earth ain't getting ~50mil/yr or whatever afaik). Hell many injuries can just be bad luck as well. Or that the whims of the public could change the popularity to other sports. Is kinda what I think he was getting at.

Nah just etiquette

And yet, amazingly, we're not beholden to our basest instincts, and we've built peaceful societies rather than being roving murderous warbands.

Oh right. Rudeness isn't the violent racism in our society. Rudeness is daring to point it out.

not sure how you jumped to talking about anarchy but whatever.

the point is that "racism" (or sexism, classism, homophobia, or whatever-sim) will never go away. it will always exist in one form or another as humans walk the earth. the only way to avoid it is to avoid interacting with other humans entirely.

The naked assertion that we can't rise above our basest instincts is pretty darn suspect given the fact that we've rise above so many already.

define "risen." the existence of societies doesn't prove anything about rising above base instincts.

in addition to tribalism, another base instinct is survival. e.g fearing you'll be killed in your sleep or when out to gather food or water.

the chances of this happening greatly decrease in civilizations vs. hunter-gatherer family units.

has nothing to do with tribalism. in fact the earliest civilizations were probably the most tribal of all.

I don't think that is limited to "athletics" and you need to expand that more generally to "entertainment".

Acting, Modeling, Musicians, and even Poker Players, all have similar financial outcomes.

The trend in business is also heading this way as the C Suite outpace income growth exponentially to "everyone else". It is not as bad as entertainment but definitely heading that way if not arrested.

Usually I hear right-wingers say--if we just make the sentences longer etc we'll deter the <whatever behavior> ?? Widespread racism--that can very much damage a person's life in numerous -measurable- ways and we just throw our hands up in the air say oh well whatya gonna do that's just how it is?? lol

No they should not be.

I get that generally people do not care about others issues and things that do not impact them directly, when they are just looking to improve their lives and enjoy themselves.

But very little social change, for the better, happens without inconveniencing the masses so that they too, are moved to want to see change done.

The 'keep it out of my face' crowd is just ok with the status quo, even when some might admit it is unfair.

The opposite of what you say is actually true.

These guys should not have waited until they were home in their living rooms to make their point so as not to rustle some in the viewing audience.



They were absolutely correct to utilize the stage they earned a place upon, to make a point and share a message.

i'd argue we've been trying to do this for millennia and have gotten next to nowhere. people nowadays hate people (outside of their "tribe" whatever it is) more than ever.

you want a practical solution? invent a "realistic" virtual reality, "The Matrix" style, that people can live in indefinitely and create an environment and only interact with people of their own choosing (e.g. same political beliefs). id argue that the proliferation and use of social media is actually one of the first steps by which this is happening. in said future society robots can do the drudge work, leaving plenty of time for almost everyone to lose themselves in their own virtual utopia.

Disagree.

You can see racism dwindle as societies integrate further and further and most families are no longer homogenous.

Sure some will fight it, and you have that 'last' fight going on now in the US as they see that window closing. They know the younger generations are nowhere near as racist as prior and will not want these battles and will be far more conciliatory. That is, in large part, why Trumpism is getting this push now, in an almost 'now or never' desperation to try and divide people and push things back about 70 years to buy more time for racists.

i dont see much evidence that racism has decreased at all. why do you think that it has? it seems its even more prevalent now. how many interracial couples do you see? i live in S.F. and see very few.

in fact tribalism seems to have increased if anything. even liking the "wrong" tv shows, music artists, movies, sports teams, etc. makes you an enemy.

The syndrome is not quite as severe in these fields. Five or ten percent of the human race have the natural talent to get good enough to make excellent money at these things if they work hard enough. And many of those who are making money in the four things you mentioned could be financially successful switching to something else. So you could say that those who are multimillionaires from those endeavors are not quite as insanely lucky.

Meanwhile your general point is correct and I think it leads some people to take with a grain of salt the concern these people are professing to have about the plight of others. Methinks it is at least partially an act in an effort to stave off the guillotine.

The increase, mainly in the US, has been only in the last few years. Things have slowly been getting better compared to the 1920's, 1950's, 1980's, 2000's in terms of interracial marriages and other such factors.



I live in the US and Canada, and in Canada, where race is not used as a political tool, the numbers and evidence is far more evident. It is clear that people do not 'tend towards racism' but it is also clear that such divisions are easily provoked when people in power choose to do so.

so this is encouraging. however, heres why i think racism is getting worse

https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2019...-america-2019/

"Staving off the guillotines" is not a bad thing. It can be both self serving and also altruistic.

Those who amass wealth and power always have this decision to make. Not only do you not want the masses to revolt, but society as a whole, does better when the richest do not horde and share with the masses.

You have the oligarchs or current russian model that loots the country to the benefit of a select few who get enormously wealthy but then live in a country in decline where such richest cannot be utilized as freely. And long term the country is poorer so it means less wealth for everyone.

You better have a big army and iron grip if you want to hold to that model.

The US avoided that for most of its history but in the last few decades the uber rich have become content to push increasingly to an oligarch model even if it means the decline and harming of America.

The US citizens may be against armed revolt generally (off with their heads) but electing a Bernie Sanders type or in 10 years an AOC type on a platform of gutting the uber rich and confiscating their wealth won't be far fetched. And likely described as a counter to the oligarch push ongoing now.

But better to stay in the middle where both sides get well served and benefit instead of one at the expense of the other.

Yes that is basically also what i said.

It is flaring up now. As I said, some in the US see it as a political weapon and tool. They see power shifting and the populace changing and are trying to cling to their perception of yesteryear (MAGA) and when they did not have to share power.

This is a last gambit amongst the MAGA crowd to hope to inflame things enough that the remaining white populace will raise up in unity and push back the changes and maybe put in place some laws and practices that will slow it or stop it and hopefully knock it back a few decades.

But that is a result of their fear that things WERE progressing and getting better, and people (white people) did not care about the browning of America and had grown to accept it.

This push will either entrench things even more or result in the next great leap forward in race relations, imo. It will force people to draw more lines of either intolerance or acceptance.

I am betting on the latter. Few people want a new race war.