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06-12-2023 , 08:20 AM
It seems like this is occurring more and more . Trans cyclist destroys the field

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...runner-up.html
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06-13-2023 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
It seems like this is occurring more and more .
Maybe. Seems just as likely that people are jumping on anything they see, and making a big deal of it. The article you linked is a great example of that; I'm not sure why what happened at a regional adult amateur race is even newsworthy. Maybe they need some rules around this, maybe everyone's good with it, but I'm sure they'll sort it out. Meanwhile, people who are either transphobic, or getting duped by the culture wars that articles like that one are doing their best to spread, are doing massively stupid and ignorant **** like this:

Girl, 9, accused of being trans at Kelowna track meet

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"She went to step up to compete for the grade four shot-put final, and right before she went to throw, a grandfather of a student said, 'Hey, this is supposed to be a girls' event, and why are you letting boys compete.' My daughter is cisgender, born female, uses she/her pronouns. She has a pixie haircut," said mom Heidi Starr.

Starr says the man then carried on to demand certification to prove that her daughter was born female.

"He stopped the entire event. He also pointed at another girl who also had short hair. He then piped in and said, 'Well, if she is not a boy, then she is obviously trans.'"

Starr said the man's wife then started calling her "a genital mutilator, a groomer, and a pedophile."
So while you keep pearl clutching over this "trans religion" nonsense of yours, we've got people out there doing actual harm to kids under the guise of protecting them. Hopefully these lunatics are just outliers, but as we prepare for the "Freedom Party of British Columbia" to show up at our school board meeting tomorrow night with people looking to protest against SOGI123, I fear that these incidents are growing much, much faster than the number of transgender people winning adult amateur sporting events.
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06-13-2023 , 02:45 PM
Oh good, we're now going to get daily updates on the trans meance in sports. Just like Cupee used to do before he popped.
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06-13-2023 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
but as we prepare for the "Freedom Party of British Columbia" to show up at our school board meeting tomorrow night with people looking to protest against SOGI123, I fear that these incidents are growing much, much faster than the number of transgender people winning adult amateur sporting events.
I'm also worried about this. Something has been happening the last 6months to a year that is worse than it was before, I think. Somewhere between Elon Musk promoting What is a Woman documentary and protests about the white house daring to put the LGBT flag up, just the tone and fervor of general anti-trans rhetoric really seems to be ramped up right now to a level I hadn't previously seen.

It's also spilling out into more general opposition. Before there was sort of two main touch points that were reasonable enough positions that many held: opposition to trans women in elite sports and opposition to surgical interventions in young teens. But it is more than that now.
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06-13-2023 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
I'm also worried about this. Something has been happening the last 6months to a year that is worse than it was before, I think. Somewhere between Elon Musk promoting What is a Woman documentary and protests about the white house daring to put the LGBT flag up, just the tone and fervor of general anti-trans rhetoric really seems to be ramped up right now to a level I hadn't previously seen.

It's also spilling out into more general opposition. Before there was sort of two main touch points that were reasonable enough positions that many held: opposition to trans women in elite sports and opposition to surgical interventions in young teens. But it is more than that now.
You'd have to be incredibly naive to not have seen where this was headed.
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06-13-2023 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
I'm also worried about this. Something has been happening the last 6months to a year that is worse than it was before, I think. Somewhere between Elon Musk promoting What is a Woman documentary and protests about the white house daring to put the LGBT flag up, just the tone and fervor of general anti-trans rhetoric really seems to be ramped up right now to a level I hadn't previously seen.

It's also spilling out into more general opposition. Before there was sort of two main touch points that were reasonable enough positions that many held: opposition to trans women in elite sports and opposition to surgical interventions in young teens. But it is more than that now.
Please tell me what is wrong with the What is women Documentary? Have you watched the whole thing ?

Nope take away trans women in elite sports and the surgical and chemical interventions in minors and I have no issues with the trans community at all
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06-13-2023 , 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
I'm also worried about this. Something has been happening the last 6months to a year that is worse than it was before, I think. Somewhere between Elon Musk promoting What is a Woman documentary and protests about the white house daring to put the LGBT flag up, just the tone and fervor of general anti-trans rhetoric really seems to be ramped up right now to a level I hadn't previously seen.

It's also spilling out into more general opposition. Before there was sort of two main touch points that were reasonable enough positions that many held: opposition to trans women in elite sports and opposition to surgical interventions in young teens. But it is more than that now.
I honestly can't for the life of me understand how high level sports were allowed to operate like that. I do apologize for how that sounds. I assumed in the beginning that there was some right wing fake news element or spin to it, or that we weren't getting the full scoop of the guidelines in place but it I think that side of it preluded and lead to a lot of the hatred.

But unless there is some long game play going on with Bud, Lozen was right and I definitely didn't anticipate the hatred would be this large and affect a company this large this much. I mean, I got back from a county fair thingy and there was a blow up bud light bottle wearing a swimsuit that people were knocking down.
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06-13-2023 , 08:13 PM
It kills me how naive some of you guys are. Of course this was never about elite women's sports, lol how many WNBA games do you think your average Trumper watches? It's always been about bullying people who are different, just fully-grown adults regressing to their roots as playground bullies.



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Originally Posted by lozen
Nope take away trans women in elite sports and the surgical and chemical interventions in minors and I have no issues with the trans community at all
Oh for sure you definitely won't mock and misgender the next trans person who appears in a beer ad.
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06-13-2023 , 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
It kills me how naive some of you guys are. Of course this was never about elite women's sports, lol how many WNBA games do you think your average Trumper watches? It's always been about bullying people who are different, just fully-grown adults regressing to their roots as playground bullies.





Oh for sure you definitely won't mock and misgender the next trans person who appears in a beer ad.
I don't think many folks are watching the WNBA . The Bullying is going on by the Trans community not against it

I never mocked or misgendered Dylan Mulvaney at all and stated I wouldn't boycott Costco Pinot Grigio if she was the spokesperson
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06-13-2023 , 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
The Bullying is going on by the Trans community not against it
Holy **** dude, you've completely lost the plot. I'll try to remember this tomorrow night when I listen to the anti-LGBTQ mob at our school board meeting. I guess the only reason they'll be there is because the big scary transgender community bullied them into it.

Wow.
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06-14-2023 , 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Maybe. Seems just as likely that people are jumping on anything they see, and making a big deal of it.
Probably the same phenomenon as this, in other words social media algorithms drive people to content they like and they subsequently overestimate is prevalence.

Police brutality against black people happens way less than public thinks
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06-14-2023 , 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Holy **** dude, you've completely lost the plot. I'll try to remember this tomorrow night when I listen to the anti-LGBTQ mob at our school board meeting. I guess the only reason they'll be there is because the big scary transgender community bullied them into it.

Wow.
Don't forget you work for that mob. They pay your salary. Maybe listen to them
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06-14-2023 , 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by lozen
I don't think many folks are watching the WNBA . The Bullying is going on by the Trans community not against it
That's the point? You guys who never once gave a rip about elite women's sports are now helicoptering in to crow about the sanctity of the sport like it's suddenly the most important issue of our time. It's transparent.

The people who actually do work in these fields have sat down in an adult way and come up with rules that participants largely seem to agree with.
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06-14-2023 , 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
That's the point? You guys who never once gave a rip about elite women's sports are now helicoptering in to crow about the sanctity of the sport like it's suddenly the most important issue of our time. It's transparent.

The people who actually do work in these fields have sat down in an adult way and come up with rules that participants largely seem to agree with.
I thought your WNBA thing was a bad example but Ill try and explain why. First off I am surprised they still use "Women's" National Basketball Association that may be triggering to some

I do believe the have one trans athlete in the league . I am not sure what letter or pronoun they go by. You do have a prominence of Lesbian and possibly Bi Sexual athletes in the league but they are biological women

Imagine if Lebron James came out and said I am a woman and wanted to play in the NBA. Even at his age he would destroy all the records. Heck a minor league biological male could do that

Saying we don't care about the WNBA and now we care about trans athletes in women's sports is nuts. I barely watch the NBA either.
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06-14-2023 , 12:18 PM
I watch some women's sports fwiw.
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06-14-2023 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I watch some women's sports fwiw.
I personally follow women's squash more than I do men's squash. As a rec player, the women's game is more approachable from a viewers perspective trying to understand the strategy and movements, while the top men's squash is so ****ing chaotic it becomes harder to follow. I get so many more tips for my own game out of watching the women play:/
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06-14-2023 , 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I watch some women's sports fwiw.
Ill be watching The Women's World Cup as well as the LPGA and the women in the Crossfit Finals . Nothing wrong with women's sports when it involves only biological women at a competitive level
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06-14-2023 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
I personally follow women's squash more than I do men's squash. As a rec player, the women's game is more approachable from a viewers perspective trying to understand the strategy and movements, while the top men's squash is so ****ing chaotic it becomes harder to follow. I get so many more tips for my own game out of watching the women play:/
Yeah I mostly just watch women's table tennis but I've also watched plenty of tennis as well, and I agree that with racket sports in particular that the women's game can be more entertaining.
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06-14-2023 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
I'm also worried about this. Something has been happening the last 6months to a year that is worse than it was before, I think. Somewhere between Elon Musk promoting What is a Woman documentary and protests about the white house daring to put the LGBT flag up, just the tone and fervor of general anti-trans rhetoric really seems to be ramped up right now to a level I hadn't previously seen.

It's also spilling out into more general opposition. Before there was sort of two main touch points that were reasonable enough positions that many held: opposition to trans women in elite sports and opposition to surgical interventions in young teens. But it is more than that now.
I don't know how many people you think are "anti-trans", but I would imagine the reality is close to 10% of how many you think. Very few people are anti-trans, but a lot are against trans in sports or kids transitioning and some people who are protesting those 2 issues your brain is telling you are anti-trans. I'm sure most of the anti-trans people started off hating adults encouraging kids to transition and they hated that women's sports were being ruined and it just drug over to being anti-trans. If trans people said we shouldn't transition kids and trans shouldn't play in sports the anti-trans protests and what not would stop overnight.

I haven't watched what is a women, but I saw a commercial for it a while ago. I think it is a super interesting topic for a documentary, but I don't know how well it was executed.

I'm not sure why everyone is sharing what women's sports they watch, but I like watch random sports from my favorite college and some of those are women's sports. I also watched nearly every single US women's national team game for 10-ish years plus a decent amount of other women's international soccer, but I stopped a couple years ago and haven't watched since. I may watch the world cup though.
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06-14-2023 , 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
I thought your WNBA thing was a bad example but Ill try and explain why. First off I am surprised they still use "Women's" National Basketball Association that may be triggering...
So zero to say about the merits of this other than some bullshit strawman you just invented, great talk.

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Saying we don't care about the WNBA and now we care about trans athletes in women's sports is nuts. I barely watch the NBA either.
Right, you don't actually give a rip about women's athletics, it's just a pretext to bully people who are different from you.
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06-14-2023 , 02:23 PM
I have only watched the first 15 minutes as it was free . The day Twitter released it for free they report it was watched 141 million times

https://www.dailywire.com/clips/watc...nutes-for-free
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06-14-2023 , 02:48 PM
This claims to be the full video. I haven't seen it.

https://twitter.com/Gidi_Traffic/sta...30282738589696
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06-14-2023 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by wreckem713
Don't forget you work for that mob. They pay your salary. Maybe listen to them
I've got no idea what made you think I'd be doing otherwise. In fact, that's precisely what I said I'd be doing.

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Holy **** dude, you've completely lost the plot. I'll try to remember this tomorrow night when I listen to the anti-LGBTQ mob at our school board meeting. I guess the only reason they'll be there is because the big scary transgender community bullied them into it.

Wow.
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06-14-2023 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
So zero to say about the merits of this other than some bullshit strawman you just invented, great talk.



Right, you don't actually give a rip about women's athletics, it's just a pretext to bully people who are different from you.
No I know women that compete in sports were this is going on now. The one sport Olympic Weightlifting all you need to say is I am a women and you can compete .

I am bullying no one but giving an opinion. The Uke's and you are the bullies
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06-14-2023 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I watch some women's sports fwiw.
Me too. Like beach volleyball and beach handball and...*trails off*
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