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Originally Posted by uke_master
That wasn't really my intent, it was to note that the existence of scouts for scholarships at some grade 11 event or whatever isn't necessarily reason to draw the line there because if those trans kids aren't eligible for college scholarships anyways they aren't displacing people.
I care quite a bit less about exactly where one draws the lines than the extreme. I generally think most school-based highschool sports should be inclusive. So if it is a state or national championship U18 type of thing, particularly in sports that are very dangerous, then I think there can be some carve outs against trans inclusion at the highschool level, but that most people who are playing on most teams should have that inclusion. But as I say, I'm almost by definition the most agnostic about the exact location, so if someone wants to say it is the sort of top 1% of competitive highschool sports and someone else thinks no more like top 10% then sure whatever.
So let's say your belief that 1-10% of high school sports are competitive is completely wrong and it's closer to 90-99% are competitive, then I assume you would be supportive of bans in 90-99% of the cases. Same if 50% of the schools are deemed to be competitive.
It seems to me that this claim of being agnostic is false, it's similar to the proponents of the heartbeat bills for abortion. You claim there is a line but the practical effect of your line results in no cases of exclusion. Just like the heartbeat bills advocates that don't advertise they are pushing a 6 week period for abortions.
I will admit that either you don't understand hs sports at all or I don't understand conceptually how you draw your line at the state championship or u18 level. A team goes undefeated all season but then exclusions occur in the state finals?