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05-02-2020 , 04:17 PM

#3251

Luckbox Inc

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Quote:

Originally Posted by d2_e4

Imagine the left had a narrative about the protestors being paid actors and the Kochs being behind it, like the right does about Soros and any left-wing protest.

I've definitely considered it.
Soros is on the right fwiw.

05-02-2020 , 04:19 PM

#3252

Luckbox Inc

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Originally Posted by lagtight

All kidding aside, as a Christian I am COMMANDED to obey the civil authorities. I practice social distancing, wear a mask, etc. I even wear a mask even where it is not required to do so.

If the authorities tell me to stay put, I will do so.

I know WN will disapprove but could you cite some verses that support this viewpoint? My understanding is that the bible says "pay your taxes" not "do whatever the government says".

05-02-2020 , 04:20 PM

#3253

d2_e4

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

I've definitely considered it.
Soros is on the right fwiw.

Doesn't seem to stop the right wingers claiming that left-wing protests are funded by him?

05-02-2020 , 04:21 PM

#3254

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Originally Posted by d2_e4

Doesn't seem to stop the right wingers claiming that left-wing protests are funded by him?

Ok. Lots of people are dumb. That isn't news. Soros runs like the 7th largest non-profit in the word that is devoted exclusively to political causes. Look into his role in the Ukrainian revolution of 2014. That isn't the work of the left there when you have a direct line to Victoria Nuland.

05-02-2020 , 04:23 PM

#3255

d2_e4

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

Ok.

I wonder why that could be, Luckbox. Maybe there is just something about Soros that makes him a suitable scapegoat for bigots. I really can't put my finger on it. Any ideas?

05-02-2020 , 04:26 PM

#3256

joe6pack

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWookie

OK, let's look at some states.

Iowa:
[ ] Isolate vulnerable people
[ ] Make masks compulsory in public
[ ] Improve testing capacity
[ ] Improve testing accuracy

Also not meeting a single criterion in Florida, who could have guessed!

Apparently Joe is a fascist himself, as he thinks those states should still be locked down.

On the contrary, most states should be able to implement my plan quite easily. The compulsory masks alone would probably eliminate the virus within a month if properly enforced. People can still go to work and do normal activities. You can call that fascist if you like, but it's a lot less fascist and makes a lot more sense than forcing people to stay in their houses indefinitely.

Oh, and that woman is definitely a fascist. She's probably polishing her jackboots right at this minute.

05-02-2020 , 04:28 PM

#3257

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Originally Posted by d2_e4

I wonder why that could be, Luckbox. Maybe there is just something about Soros that makes him a suitable scapegoat for bigots. I really can't put my finger on it. Any ideas?

It's probably his prominence in donations to political causes and his work funding color revoltutions that cause people to think he's up to no good.

05-02-2020 , 04:36 PM

#3258

d2_e4

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

It's probably his prominence in donations to political causes and his work funding color revoltutions that cause people to think he's up to no good.

And you personally, what do you think? Do you think anti-Trump protestors are paid actors hired by Soros? If not, are you totally ruling it out, or still unsure?

05-02-2020 , 04:36 PM

#3259

lagtight

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Originally Posted by d2_e4

2.5 buy-ins is 2.5 buy-ins. I'm anyone's for the right price. Ship the cheddar.

PM me your GoFundMe account, and I will shoot you the cheddar.

05-02-2020 , 04:38 PM

#3260

lagtight

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Quote:

Originally Posted by formula72

Lagtight, will you get the vaccine when it is available?

If it is mandatory, I will take the vaccine. Otherwise, probably not.

05-02-2020 , 04:41 PM

#3261

formula72

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lagtight

If it is mandatory, I will take the vaccine. Otherwise, probably not.

What are some concerns that convince you the not taking the vaccine is wiser than taking it?

05-02-2020 , 04:44 PM

#3262

d2_e4

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Originally Posted by joe6pack

Trump supporters calling other people fascists is a pretty hot take there, joey. You been mainlining Lysol again?

05-02-2020 , 04:54 PM

#3263

lagtight

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Originally Posted by formula72

What are some concerns that convince you the not taking the vaccine is wiser than taking it?

Vaccines have varying degrees of efficacy, and varying degrees of potential harmful side effects.

If the vaccine is optional, then my decision will mostly be made by accessing the criteria above.

If the vaccine is "free", then only the possibility of adverse side-effects would be a consideration for not taking it.

Edit: The efficacy (or lack thereof) of vaccines belongs in another forum, imo.

05-02-2020 , 04:54 PM

#3264

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Originally Posted by d2_e4

And you personally, what do you think? Do you think anti-Trump protestors are paid actors hired by Soros? If not, are you totally ruling it out, or still unsure?

No. I don't think anti-Trump protesters are paid actors

05-02-2020 , 04:56 PM

#3265

lagtight

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

No. I don't think anti-Trump protesters are paid actors

Do you think that they are UNPAID actors?

05-02-2020 , 05:00 PM

#3266

MrWookie

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Quote:

Originally Posted by joe6pack

Whether or not they could "easily" follow your plan (improving testing accuracy is definitely not easy), they aren't following your plan, and you are still here trying to argue that they should open up?

Also, let's check in on how your team is responding to compulsory masks:

https://www.stwnewspress.com/covid-1...cebfc0023.html

Quote:

City Manager Norman McNickle issued a statement about the change and the controversy surrounding mandatory face coverings:

“In the short time beginning on May 1, 2020, that face coverings have been required for entry into stores/restaurants, store employees have been threatened with physical violence and showered with verbal abuse. In addition, there has been one threat of violence using a firearm. This has occurred in three short hours and in the face of clear medical evidence that face coverings helps contain the spread of COVID-19.

“Many of those with objections cite the mistaken belief the requirement is unconstitutional, and under their theory, one cannot be forced to wear a mask. No law or court supports this view. In fact, a recent Federal lawsuit against Guthrie’s face covering order was fully dismissed by the United States District Court for the Western District of Oklahoma.

05-02-2020 , 05:01 PM

#3267

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Originally Posted by lagtight

I'm not a anti-vaxxer by any means. I got my last vaccine a couple years ago free at the Bogotá airport (there's a clinic there and it would cost like $250 in the US) for yellow fever. Having it is a requirement if you want to fly in or out of Cartagena (which I didn't end up doing). Zero intention of getting a corona vaccine though.

05-02-2020 , 05:02 PM

#3268

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Originally Posted by lagtight

Do you think that they are UNPAID actors?

I think that there is an element of controlled opposition in organizations like moveon.org.

05-02-2020 , 05:02 PM

#3269

formula72

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

I'm not a anti-vaxxer by any means. I got my last vaccine a couple years ago free at the Bogotá airport (there's a clinic there) for yellow fever. Having it is a requirement if you want to fly in or out of Cartagena (which I didn't end up doing). Zero intention of getting a corona vaccine though.

Why?

05-02-2020 , 05:03 PM

#3270

lagtight

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Originally Posted by MrWookie

If masks become mandatory, I'll wear one that covers my whole head, and it will look scary and hideous....almost as scary and hideous as my REAL face.

05-02-2020 , 05:05 PM

#3271

lagtight

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I plan to wear a ski mask the next time I go to my bank.

05-02-2020 , 05:09 PM

#3272

Luckbox Inc

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Originally Posted by formula72

Why?

I almost never get sick or if I do it lasts for a day and then I'm fine. I'm willing to take my chances with corona.

05-02-2020 , 05:18 PM

#3273

d2_e4

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lagtight

1. Until recently, I wasted a lot of time playing chess online.
2. In May, I gave a lecture at the South Bay Creation Science Association.
3. I gave an apologetics lecture at my church about a month ago.
4. I am writing a short e-book on the topic of the reliability of the Holy Bible.
5. I am currently reading a book on logical fallacies.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagtight

Vaccines have varying degrees of efficacy, and varying degrees of potential harmful side effects.

If the vaccine is optional, then my decision will mostly be made by accessing the criteria above.

If the vaccine is "free", then only the possibility of adverse side-effects would be a consideration for not taking it.

Edit: The efficacy (or lack thereof) of vaccines belongs in another forum, imo.

The word you're looking for there is "assessing", professor.

Last edited by d2_e4; 05-02-2020 at 05:23 PM.

05-02-2020 , 05:25 PM

#3274

d2_e4

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

I almost never get sick or if I do it lasts for a day and then I'm fine. I'm willing to take my chances with corona.

Pretty sick analysis from Dr. Science there. I mean, if you don't want to get lumped with the anti-intellectual brigade, you might want to avoid statements like this.