No doubt I have a handful of posts in whatever threads trans people were discussed in, but don't assume that I ever paid too much attention to them. So your assumption that I would auto-dismiss any transphobic posts is incorrect. It is however my impression Juan's focus was on sports.

As someone who didn't pay attention to Juan's posts, perhaps you should defer to the people who did.

It was never just sports. Sports was just one aspect where he knew he could present a veneer of respectability.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...udies-1647352/

The problem is that you guys are consistently wrong.

it was about sports how homophobic people are really concerned with the sanctity of the institution of marriage.

I will probably lock this thread soon if it's just going to be a referendum on the exile choice or JV's posting in general, but it seems worth reiterating:

JV was not exiled for his substantive political views (at least as expressed in his posts). If you can find another JV with similar views on cultural issues, but who can avoid linking white nationalist twitter accounts and be significantly less abusive (mostly to other posters, occasionally to the subjects of his cultural grievances), then that poster will be welcome. If I thought it were at all possible that JV could ever become that poster, I would have just gone with (yet another) temp ban. I have 4 years of experience of him though, which suggest otherwise. I think the fact that he was here for over a year is some evidence of the sincerity of these statements.

I don't think it's a trivial decision to exile someone, and I'd prefer to never do it, or at least to do it as little as possible. There should probably also be some mechanism for re-evaluating those decisions every once in a while, but I'm not sure how much extra pain I really want to inflict upon myself.

Oh, OK, I'm sure you'll approach any citation with an open mind...

WELP

Hey LB, I bet if you very politely pm the moderator, he will gently explain all of this to you as though you were a small child.

No, that wasn't about sports! It was about how sky daddy would punish us with tornadoes and earthquakes. Keep up!

- JV is banned for reasons including linking white-supremacist twitter accounts and whatnot.

- LB posts that JV should not have been banned.

- I post observation about how he rushed to JV's defense.

- He defends his position by noting that he defended Fly as well.

- I clarify that my beef with him defending JV is about the racist ****.

- He persists and you call my position silly rhetoric.

I'm sure you can defend your positions without the use of silly rhetoric.

Pretending that objecting to silly rhetoric is saying anything about your position is itself a form of silly rhetoric. Another common one sadly.

Are coincidently timely pedantic interjections another? Consider starting a thread about silly rhetoric (from which I sincerely would expect to learn a thing or two) so that I wont consider them to be intentional sidetracks while I'm in the middle of calling racists racist or whatever.

Fraid so. Predictable as well

Please lock this thread, WN. The OP is gone,and it was never much more than LC at any point.

Is it because I enjoy calling out your absurd strawpeopling in this thread?

its proly bc you act like an impartial observer and critic of the power that be and then every single time reach the conclusion that nope gotta side with the reactionaries in power and continue oppressing.

Not sure at all how you've reached that conclusion. Because I don't think Juan should have been banned?
But I really doubt that's Suzzer's logic.

I think it's mostly because you're a garbage poster.

That would be you.