I think that's all reasonable enough. My rough perception is that there are real problems related to the stagnation of wages and opportunities for low-skill workers, but those issues were probably inevitable and caused more by globalization and technology change than by immigration, although immigration probably has had some impact.

But I expect that this issue will continue to exist regardless of what we do with immigration. So I think it's important to try to make clear that anti-immigration policy is not really a solution, but I also agree that this doesn't mean that the problem isn't meaningful. It basically dovetails into the conversation about UBI, just as one example.

UBI is still in its academic phase, imo. What we need to focus on is moving people out of the low-skill bracket. As far as UBI the only way I see it coming to fruition in the near term is if we hit a really bad recession like the last one. I think the American people learned their lesson with Obama's stimulus - giving our money to the banks who were supposed to give it back to us but didn't - and will demand the direct deposit method.

THis is a tangentially related topic, but close enough I think to include here.

Anyways, has anyone looked at the actual social politics of immigration from (mostly) conservative cultures. For example, will the immigration of millions of immigrants from Central America in recent years shift the abortion debate landscape?

I don’t even know for sure people take their home countries political leanings with them. Which is part of the question.

I'd assume they bring their (generally) Catholic faith with them, which would influence their opinion on Abortion as an example. It would also naturally align them politically.

I was interested and could only find this article on the subject.

All of the research I've read in the last month has all lead me to the conclusion that growing up in America, going to American schools, watching American TV, listening to American music, having American friends, and on and on, statistically turns you into an "American".

The El Paso killer’s manifesto is kind of interesting in that he acknowledges 2nd generation immigrants generally want the same good jobs any American wants. So the whole talking point about immigrants not assimilating, or soaking up welfare, is out the window in that spot - and he’s just flat out admitting it’s racism.

I wonder how many on this forum feel the same way if you could completely speak your minds.

My favorite Brazilian youtuber has a video out today talking about the biggest difference culturally between Brazil and the rest of the world [that she's experienced]. She makes the claim that Brazilians care more about physical appearance than anything else.
She also claims that Brazil wasn't this way before and blames soap operas and carnaval although that analysis could probably go a little deeper. She never calls it vanity but at the end says that Brazilians have a propensity to want to show off and try to feel superior. It's nice though for me to see my own thoughts validated. Clearly cultures do differ in their basic attitudes*--things like the deadly sins of greed, vanity, lust?, etc. And what those differences are and how they come about are really interesting to consider. Link to Debora video below and it is perfectly safe and not a conspiracy video.


*And the central question of this thread was still "What way will hispanic immigration change the character of the US, if the US can be said to have a character?

Who else here do you think can understand those videos?

Also, I thought the stereotype was that Venezuelan (women at least) were the most obsessed with physical appearance.

Also, Brazil has the highest optional C-section rate by a very large margin. My understanding is the motives are a combination of vanity on the women's part and doctors not wanting to waste their time sitting in a hospital all day during labor.

Speak English. This is America!
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/...y-country.html
For cosmetic surgeries it's USA, Brazil, South Korea. But it wouldn't surprise me that there is plenty of vanity in Venezuela. There are some cultural similarities I think between them and you definitely see plenty of it in places like Medellin where the cliché is heavily done up women. I think climate is a factor. The more skin you can show due to climate the more important that sort of stuff becomes--although I'm sure counter examples abound there too. But northern South America is pretty nice.

Bump. Not too much to say about hispanic culture in America. A couple of weeks ago I was at a McDonalds drive-thru (don't judge me I was with someone else and just getting coffee) and the lady was confused and I could tell didn't understand so I just switched to spanish (she thought it was 2 coffees and some soda and mostly had order wrong). No problem.
I've been watching noticias telemundo or whatever other news shows are broadcast lately too..with Jorge Ramos. One thing I think is interesting is the amount of English that gets incorporated into Spanish language advertising nowadays. I never noticed it before but see it now regularly. At least here. Not Colombia but I have rarely watched tv there.