For the life of me, I can't understand why people on both sides of the political spectrum have so much trouble respecting the institutions and processes they claim so vehemently to love.

We saw it in 2008 with Obama and the birther crap. Then we saw it in 2016 with Trump, 2018 with Kavanaugh, and now 2020 will be RBG. Neither side is immune to it.

I'm seeing on twitter and stuff a bunch of people claiming that Trump putting up a candidate for the SC is tantamount to the first shot fired on Fort Sumter. What is this nonsense? He has every right to put up a nominee. Obama had the same exact right and every president before them.

Being a part of a partisan political system means you have to take an L sometimes. Sometimes you have to take nonstop L's for 8+ years. Both parties have to deal with it. The country moves on, or at least, has historically done so.

Trying to tear the system apart because you didn't get your way is not going to result in your side winning in perpetuity. It will only result in the destruction of the system that gives you an opportunity to win once every four years.

Hypocrisy is at the heart of this discussion?

Rs hold up an Obama SC appointee in 2016 for eight months. Rs wanna push one now.

Laugh, cause crying won't do any good.

shut up

I think this is how most sane people look at it.

While I'm one of the few posters here who blame Obama and the Dems for allowing the GOP to disrespect the institutions you speak of, let me just say......lol. You're funny.

You fake patriots always want to play by the rules when you're in charge and always want to burn the house down when you're not. Just go home.

Most sane people understand why you two are full of ****.

Because the covid took away the toilet paper. Cmon, everybody knows that fact.

I'm going to make it more clear. The left are crying like babies because they nominated Hillary Clinton and couldn't beat Donald Trump, all the while Harry Reid changed the rules to allow things just like what's occurring. So, they blame the system, blame the GOP for their supposed hypocrisy (never mind every single one of them, to a t, supported Obama's nomination when he made it an election year, exposing their own hypocrisy), instead of their own incompetent political leaders.

Correct OP. It is just how the cookie crumbles.

Serious question, do you actually understand what hypocrisy is? This post is MINDBLOWING. Like, holy ****, do you have any idea what you're talking about???

Like, I wrote this as a joke:

but it's actually your serious argument. LOOOOOOOOL

Goofy is funny. He's pro-obstruction now but was anti-obstruction a few years ago. He thinks one of his manipulative little narrative twists absolves him of his own deceitful hypocrisy.

Why are the Libertarian, Communist, and Green parties forced to take a loss every election and for everything? Every party that exists in the US gets a turn nominating a Supreme Court Justice to make things fair.

The thing is the dems would do exactly the same thing in exactly the same spot and to say they wouldn't is just laughably bad.

That would be rather unfair, if you are for population representation.

Were you in favor of Republicans just taking the L when Obama nominated Merrick Garland? Did you believe that McConnell was actively complicit in destroying democracy when he refused to allow a vote on Garland's confirmation?

What is your recommended response if one side simply disregards norms?

Right? Harry Reid literally started this chain of events that has allowed this to occur with the hopes to accomplish what the right has subsequently accomplished.

lol:

There's a reason you abandoned the thread where this question was posed to you and ran for the hills to find another safe space

Sometimes you win some, sometimes you lose some. If it's your turn to appoint a judge you win.

Goofy's been told repeatedly why I limit my interactions with him and others... But he continues to lie about my motivations. I believe goofy is a toxic narcissist who's incapable of intellectual honesty. That's why I limit my interactions with him and others. They're so arrogant that they believe I owe them some sort of explanation. Along those lines MrWookie has been told why I won't answer most of his questions. But what do you know, goofy's got to lie about why I won't answer them.

+1

republicans are know to be for laws and order, as long it’s applied to others but not on them .....

When they will figured this out , the US politics will stop being non sense .

I mean Trump has the right to put up a nominee and the Senate has the right to accept it and I fully expect them to do it, but a Democratic Senate has every right to pack the courts and admit Puerto Rico, USVI, etc as states (which anyone really should do regardless). They won't do it because they're wussies but they could. Everyone who talks about who has rights to do what tends to want what people could do to stop right at what they want them to do.

Also the Constitution is

so what happens when one side just says **** you i'm doing what i want and destroying the norms.. are the dems supposed to just go, welp that's republicans for ya, they cheat, lie and, defraud the country every time they have a little bit of power, guess we'll just wait and go back to normal next time, over and over again like some iterated prisoner dilemma fail..

That's an odd one, because he was nominated in 2010 and

It was clearly a political move in case a Republican won the 2016 election, and pretty awful tbh. Definitely an example of the political partisanship I despise.

I am generally ok with anything being done, so long as its legal. My OP was referring to people claiming they won't respect the results of the election or threatening a civil war if Trump appoints a replacement for RBG this year. Perhaps this fever pitch partisanship is rooted in that event, but it's unlikely.

Yes I think that would probably be best. Two wrongs don't make a right. The whole thing is going to erupt if you continue on in that negative feedback loop. You're supposed to be more educated and tolerant than Republicans; act like it.

EDIT: the population can see how your prisoner friend is voting. How you will be judged is largely based on your response.

tolerance of what? millions of people being discriminated against through ridiculous religious based rulings from a conservative entrenched supreme court?

tolerance of millions of women losing reproductive rights so some people can feel good about their sky man?

tolerance for concentration camps of immigrants where thousands of women are given forced hysterectomies?

tolerance for millions of people losing health insurance because one of the first cases the new court will be deciding on involves the ACA?

yeah no thanks man.