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Ahmaud Arbery Killing -- 3 Guilty of Murder Ahmaud Arbery Killing -- 3 Guilty of Murder

11-22-2021 , 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jcorb
someone needs to to a video re-enactment of the shooting only switch it up to have three African American men chase down and kill a caucasian jogger all the while claiming to perform a citizen's arrest.
LOL

White kid may get followed at gunpoint put they're letting him run away all day.
11-23-2021 , 11:01 AM
All three guilty than both Kyles and this case justice was served
11-23-2021 , 11:12 AM
As a Canadian I doubt you see Kyles case as 'Just' or 'justice'.


And again since you asked me prior to describe your political leanings, I will say this is another example of you wanting to 'appear on the side of the far right' even though in actuality you are very far left of those same people.

For whatever reasons you identify far more with the far right and probably in a weird parallel to what motivates Kyle you want those in those circles to like you.

Kyles case is a proper application of laws that have been bastardized and distorted to such an extent that they are bound to lead to future continued legal tragedies and very predictable vigilantes killings.


That is not 'justice' and I don't think you think it is. But it is the proper application of the law.
11-23-2021 , 11:36 AM
The usa has a lol 'justice' system but we already knew that
11-23-2021 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by nucularburro
Only thing my pa taught me before leaving home was that if you see a cop coming cross the street.
So they can bust you for jaywalking? No thanks copper!
11-23-2021 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
All three guilty than both Kyles and this case justice was served
Well, the cases aren't parallel.

Kyle literally ran away from the guys he ended up shooting. These guys chased their victim down in motor vehicles and worked as a team to block his escape route.

Running away = fear response.
Running toward = aggressive response.
11-23-2021 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by RFlushDiamonds
Well, the cases aren't parallel.

Kyle literally ran away from the guys he ended up shooting. These guys chased their victim down in motor vehicles and worked as a team to block his escape route.

Running away = fear response.
Running toward = aggressive response.
This. Self defence cases often come down to who closed the gap.
11-23-2021 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RFlushDiamonds
Well, the cases aren't parallel.

Kyle literally ran away from the guys he ended up shooting. These guys chased their victim down in motor vehicles and worked as a team to block his escape route.

Running away = fear response.
Running toward = aggressive response.
I haven't been following this case as closely as the KR case, as I think this case is an obvious guilty. I am somewhat surprised by people drawing parallels between the two cases when they are in no way similar.
11-23-2021 , 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkJr
I haven't been following this case as closely as the KR case, as I think this case is an obvious guilty. I am somewhat surprised by people drawing parallels between the two cases when they are in no way similar.
The rather obvious similarity is dangerous right-wing *******s arming themselves with firearms and acting as neighborhood vigilantes.
11-23-2021 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkJr
I haven't been following this case as closely as the KR case, as I think this case is an obvious guilty. I am somewhat surprised by people drawing parallels between the two cases when they are in no way similar.
Arberry reached for the gun. he put those guys in danger.
11-23-2021 , 02:18 PM
I'm really confused by this defense attorney's decision to mock the length of Arbery's toenails in front of the jury. Any juror who would respond well to that sort of comment presumably would vote to acquit no matter what.
11-23-2021 , 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
I'm really confused by this defense attorney's decision to mock the length of Arbery's toenails in front of the jury. Any juror who would respond well to that sort of comment presumably would vote to acquit no matter what.
I think you'd be surprised at how improvised some things are in a trial. I don't know what that defense attorney was thinking when she said that, but I would bet she wasn't really.
11-23-2021 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
Arberry reached for the gun. he put those guys in danger.
It's no coincidence that you are the poster that is least able to look at things with any nuance or criticality.
11-23-2021 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
I'm really confused by this defense attorney's decision to mock the length of Arbery's toenails in front of the jury. Any juror who would respond well to that sort of comment presumably would vote to acquit no matter what.
It’s not confusing when you consider that the lawyer might be an idiot.
11-23-2021 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkJr
I think you'd be surprised at how improvised some things are in a trial. I don't know what that defense attorney was thinking when she said that, but I would bet she wasn't really.
I wouldn't be surprised.

Even so, I don't see how an experienced lawyer could decide in the moment that insulting the victim's hygiene is a good idea.
11-23-2021 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
It’s not confusing when you consider that the lawyer might be an idiot.
That's possible, but she isn't a neophyte. She seems to have handled a lot of jury trials.

"Avoid gratuitously insulting dead people" is pretty basic stuff.
11-23-2021 , 06:09 PM
The best case scenario for the defendants IMO is that there is at least one secret KKK member on the jury who buys into all the racist dog whistles that the defense attorneys were making and refuses to vote guilty, resulting in a hung jury.

Just like how the facts and the law were on Ritterhouse's side in that case, the facts and the law are pretty clearly on the side of Arbery in this case.
11-23-2021 , 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
That's possible, but she isn't a neophyte. She seems to have handled a lot of jury trials.

"Avoid gratuitously insulting dead people" is pretty basic stuff.
I don’t mean to offend the lawyers ITT, but some of them manage to go pretty far while still basically being dumbasses. Look at that Rittenhouse judge complaining to the court that he did t know how to handle text messaging.
11-23-2021 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
I don’t mean to offend the lawyers ITT, but some of them manage to go pretty far while still basically being dumbasses. Look at that Rittenhouse judge complaining to the court that he did t know how to handle text messaging.
There is no straight line between being able to pass tests and the ability to take in and apply information in a logically sound and smart way.

Tests are mostly rote learning. Especially tests from yesteryear.

They demonstrate the ability to memorize things and then repeat it. Application of what is learned does happen after but if you don't have great rote learning skill first your ability to apply the information will be limited. Thus why rote learning makes up the overwhelming majority of what is discerned in tests. A person with super low rote learning (memory) who could get near 100% in application with an open book test would fail most structured tests (historically) simply because of the rote learning aspect. that despite the fact life is open book. You can always access materials needed to solve any question.

Rote learning was simply easy to teach and mark.

Some of the least pragmatic and least life and work skilled people I have met over the years had the highest test scores and the most degrees and no one would put them generally in any area of business outside quant type stuff.
11-23-2021 , 10:25 PM
I am torn. On the one hand it is a slam dunk guilty. On the other hand this is Georgia.
11-23-2021 , 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
I wouldn't be surprised.

Even so, I don't see how an experienced lawyer could decide in the moment that insulting the victim's hygiene is a good idea.
Or maybe she is planning to make some crazy argument that he couldn't be a jogger with those nails.
11-23-2021 , 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jjjou812
Or maybe she is planning to make some crazy argument that he couldn't be a jogger with those nails.
That would be an interesting theory if it mattered whether he was out for a jog or not.
11-23-2021 , 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by synth_floyd
The best case scenario for the defendants IMO is that there is at least one secret KKK member on the jury who buys into all the racist dog whistles that the defense attorneys were making and refuses to vote guilty, resulting in a hung jury.

Just like how the facts and the law were on Ritterhouse's side in that case, the facts and the law are pretty clearly on the side of Arbery in this case.
What % of Georgia residents would prefer a not guilty, iyo?

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11-23-2021 , 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
Arberry reached for the gun. he put those guys in danger.
This will certainly be the action the defense attorney will focus on. There was some reporting that the Mcmicheal vehicle struck Arbrey in a pre video altercation. I wonder if there is physical evidence to support this or an uninvolved witness. I have been under the impression that Roddie Bryant told the cops this and confirmed Mcmicheals are racists. Although I expected it sooner than now, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets cut loose/ lesser charges after he testifies against the Mcmicheals.
11-24-2021 , 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by jjjou812
This will certainly be the action the defense attorney will focus on. There was some reporting that the Mcmicheal vehicle struck Arbrey in a pre video altercation. I wonder if there is physical evidence to support this or an uninvolved witness. I have been under the impression that Roddie Bryant told the cops this and confirmed Mcmicheals are racists. Although I expected it sooner than now, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets cut loose/ lesser charges after he testifies against the Mcmicheals.
Poor Victor. He's tried to make this joke about 5 times now and the only people who have acknowledged it don't get it.

For once and for all, he is drawing a parallel with the Rittenhouse case and satirising his defence.

      
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