Thanks, appreciated.

A Georgia Bureau of Investigation agent testified in Thursdays preliminary hearing. It included multiple instances of McMichael's racial hatred. The link is below.

And by the way, no matter how hard corpus vile wants to pivot to the right side of this issue now, he looked like an historically uninformed clown racist apologist at the beginning of this thread over a great deal of pathetic posts.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbc...the beginning.

I knew the guy had the flush and it wasn't exactly rocket science to deduce. You really struggled with it. Think about that for a very long time.

I agree with this analogy and I think corpus may have been somewhat tone-deaf in delivering his message, and perhaps a little naive in the message he was attempting to deliver, but I also think that the people calling him racist or claiming he was defending racists ITT for what he was saying were out of line.

If something goes down in Georgia, Alabama or Mississippi and you even slightly start off by siding on the, "I don't know if the white person that just killed the black person is a racist" then you are being a fool. It is infinitely more logical to say nothing and wait for the facts, then to defend the white person as possibly not racist.

Racist apologists are insufferable hypocrites.

He did, yes.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52927018

The BBC report also has this:-

And this:--

But there were no such break-ins and there was no such suspect. If he means the man seen on CCTV looking round the unfinished house, nothing was stolen there and there simply wasn't a problem.

So the whole thing, with the chasing in pick-ups, looks like an old-style recreational manhunt, except they wouldn't say 'man', they'd use the n-word.

WTF Teflon mentioned it.

I don't need to think about it. Because automatically asserting anything based on the criteria you used is stupid. The end.

Dear oh dear, highlight again time huh? Due to your amoeba like attention span? It's getting to be a regular Groundhog Day around here innit?
Here's what I said and really really focus, okay? And do try and retain the info you read, can't emphasise that bit enough. You think you can do that? I mean I know it's hard for you but y'know, eye of the tiger mate and all that.
Ready??
I also said that I considered it murder and expressed hope they'd get convicted.
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...&postcount=845
You also said this earlier:
Maybe you should catch up, just throwin' it out there...

Oh and if you could be so kind as to link precisely where I engaged in any apologia for racism anywhere in this thread or any other thread, then that would be just peachy thanks. Otherwise, go away stop being such a lying James Blunt.

Corpus vile you got own from the start. And you got own at the end. But without a doubt another white person will eventually kill another black person in the south and you will get another chance to get owned again saying it isn't likely racially motivated.

Your starting point on the Arbery case leaned so far in one direction as to amount to nothing but a racist apologist. You are too dense and stupid, as well as, historically uneducated to ever comment on the south again.

So you can't cite where I engaged in apologia for racism, gotcha.



And I never said it was most likely not race related and I challenge you to cite where I did say that, Pinocchio. I just linked to you precisely what I said. You're clearly as thick as three short planks nailed together and about half as interesting and your evident inability to read is not my problem.

He mentioned it with a sense of context though, namely that Mr Arbery may have been going through issues. I got the impression you kinda seized on only that out of the entirety of Teflon's post.

I'm not saying you're personally doing this, but reference to victim's past history has been done in other cases. IIRC selfies of Trayvon Martin posing- as any kid his age tends to do- had some sorta nefarious/sinister connotations attached to them, for example. There's a kind veiled hanging in the air intimation that the victim "deserved" it, when such things get seized upon. It seems to me like victim denigration.

So his past is irrelevant especially now that new evidence has come to light regarding the depravity of his murder and despicable nature of his killers. What really sickens me is that earlier I highlighted some tweets calling it a lynching and regarded such terms as emotive hyperbole. I admonished in a finger wagging style hows such phrases weren't helping things...when that's precisely what it was. An actual lynching. In 2020 not 1920.
Considering the absolutely obscene manner of Mr Arbery's murder, I think seizing upon his past brushes with the law as if to attach gravitas to it is akin to desecrating his grave.

So again it's irrelevant.

I think the point is more that drawing inferences is fine when they make logical sense, rather than taking a well reported school shooting and coming to the highly illogical conclusion that it wasn't actually a school shooting and was instead an elaborate psy-op involving child actors.

"Well-reported" doing a lot of work there.

Not really.

In rural/suburban Alabama and Georgia and north Florida it is completely common. There were always guns around everywhere, even in high school.

The only point I was making is, when you downplay/trivialize a victims transgressions, you are making those transgressions relevant. There is also an implication that if they were considered more serious transgressions then the victim would be responsible, I.e. the behavior was not serious enough to warrant the reaction....but what if they were more serious? The reality is, the behavior is entirely irrelevant. No matter how serious it is.

As Teflon pointed out, his theme was not really centered on that, however, he allows his message to get attacked by trivializing something he did not, should not need to trivialize.

Looking at something in context isn't necessarily downplaying. Did he bring a gun or was this just alleged? I only heard he was indicted for it but don't know the outcome. Was it a legally held gun if so? And how serious a crime is an unregistered gun in some states anyway? Serious? A misdemeanour? Or depending on the state?
And how old was he, 19 at the time? I''m quite different today than when I was at 19 and lots of young men go through troubled periods or have issues in their late teens or early 20s. So viewing such things in context isn't downplaying.

I just got the impression again you were seizing on it or at least attaching more gravitas to it than warranted.

The offence was carrying a gun in a school, which is a gun-free zone. He was seen with the gun in his waistband while queuing for the basketball game. When spoken to by an officer, he admitted he'd had the gun but he no longer had it on him. It was soon found lying outside the gym, a .380 automatic. He was also charged with obstructing a police officer. This was presumably what led to his being put on probation.

There's quite a bit about Arbery and the neighbourhood here, from an Atlanta journal -- apologies if it was posted before -- but it was written before the discovery of Travis McMichael's unsavory social-media history, which is probably more relevant than Arbery's priors or even what seem to be his occasional visits to Mr English's unfinished house, which triggered the whole thing.

https://www.ajc.com/news/crime--law/...j90XFWbKfApmJ/

so somehow I missed that the guy taking video actually hit Arbery with his car before they shot him. and that guy was trying to say that he was a total bystander and not involved in any way.

I guess with all the protests going on and the uncovering of dudes racist social media this detail got kinda lost at least for me but it seems pretty damn important. while this was still fresh I did see that they found Arbery was chased for 4-5 minutes which is a pretty long time really.

I thought these guys would walk before but I think these new details tilt it to conviction. and all bc that clown was sharing his video with his friends.

I think I read somewhere that he actually asked his lawyer to give the video to the media so it would exonerate them.

Shame he won't be playing poker any time soon, sounds like he's good for the game.

Was Bryan also armed? In the video you hear a clicking sound and there's an interesting comment
However I've no experience or knowledge of guns so can't say, does anyone who might know guns better have any thoughts?
(This version does not show Mr Arbery's killing)

The police are saying there's physical forensic evidence from the vehicle that he did do that, yeah. Far from a bystander, they say he was taking part in an old-style n-hunt. And the authorities were minded to take no action until they found the idiot was sharing his kill video around. I think it's partly (or wholly) because the GBI took notice at that point, and their view is radically different from that of the county police and the two DAs who are buddies of Greg McMichael.

Travis M wasn't the only racist. Racist comments by Bryan have come to light also
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/04/u...ery/index.html
Re Truck
Re Mcmichaels truck

I had read previously that the police actually did wish to press charges against the M's from the start but were told not to by DA

Not exactly. From the Atlanta Journal-Constitution article:-

Apologies for the wall-of-text, but a man's life is worth something and there seems to have been a lot of 'good old boys and good neighbors' going on at all levels till the GBI took a contrary view.