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Originally Posted by TeflonDawg
I find this post tone deaf
It's entirely possible Trump wrote THUGS in all caps and was truly thinking of no specific race and solely the monolithic group known as looters
The use of the term thug is still a racist dog whistle. Obviously it's not always used in that regard, but the problem is when Trump says it there is an entire body of work from his past that makes it impossible to not think he used a racist dog whistle
The claim was that Trump said he wanted African Americans killed.When this claim was shown to be untrue it was claimed that it was "100% accurate" due to Trump's use of the word thug despite there being white rioters and looters also.
Basically when Trump uses it to describe rioters and looters, it's racist as he secretly means black people and wants them killed, but when Obama uses it to describe looters and rioters or MSM does to describe white criminals, it isn't racist. You're right. I don't understand it as words seem to mean whatever people want them to mean over your way. Therefore calling rioters thugs means you want black people killed if a different president says it than another president.
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The logic might be more or less correct, but you seem to not understand similar to the way corpus vile does not understand. When you're a minority, you go your whole life experiencing things that make it very ****ing clear that yes, the term thug is indeed a dog whistle.
Would you regard this as clear?
https://www.google.ie/search?q=no+do...Nc1gueB2xTAwM:
Or this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Irish_sentiment
With respect you've know way of knowing what posters do and don't understand regarding bigotry or racism.
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Sometimes the line is blurry and you can't tell, but god dammit if it doesn't make you squint...It's a unique experience that others simply won't have in quite the same way
And sometimes it's just plain contrary innit? I mean it's almost like it is and it isn't at the same time.
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To openly state the threat of shooting looters implies an indifference to loss of life.
How does this equate to wanting African Americans killed when there were looters of more than one race? How does it equate to a racist dog whistle when used to describe black and white looters along with any other race who happened to be looting and rioting? Did he mean just the black rioters and looters when he used the word thugs?
I find your posts refreshingly thoughtful, compared to the emotive crap that's taken up much of this thread, but you're justifying what is a serious reach here, as it really is a serious reach to infer the use of the word thugs to describe rioters of all backgrounds in these specific protests, to "I want black people shot". A very serious reach.
That said it's your country so you guys handle your race issues any way you please.
Last edited by corpus vile; 05-31-2020 at 04:14 PM.