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05-08-2020 , 01:00 PM
Also, this CNN article from yesterday goes through all the details about the McMichaels calling 911, following him, etc. In other words, it goes through all the stuff that you claim the MSM was hiding from the sheeple who rely on the MSM.

I'm sure I can find many, many similar MSM articles.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/07/us/ah...mands-justice/
05-08-2020 , 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelhus100
Also FWIW the "jogging" narrative the MSM is running with is surely a red herring. As far as I can tell at some point his mother said something to the effect of, "I think maybe he was jogging" and suddenly that turned into a narrative where he was a jogger. It is so typically predictive how the MSM can run with a narrative of their choosing on the flimsiest pretense and all the wokesters will just completely accept it uncritically.
LMAO. You talking about people accepting things uncritically is hilarious.
05-08-2020 , 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Are you really amazed by it, knowing what you know about these guys?



But that's the whole point.
Maybe you are right. I assume that a lot of the early defenders of guys like George Zimmerman and Cliven Bundy are embarrassed about what idiots those guys turned out to be, but maybe they don't care.
05-08-2020 , 01:06 PM
Hold on wait, the media uses wordplay, paraphrasing and suggestive language to convey a narrative to sell copy?

Surely this is newsworthy if true. I find it hard to believe they've gotten away with it for this long without someone catching on.

I thought this was going to be a thread on an actual life event, a crime, and not rehashing the same old tired bullshit about how the media is deceptive. It's not exactly revelatory stuff.

I think for most people, me anyway, it's just a way to kill a bit of time reading about true crime. Especially crime in the crazytown that is the US.
05-08-2020 , 01:07 PM
Why don't some of you raving morons investigate the history of these miscreant murderers the McMichaels? One of them was a cop in Glynn county, which almost guarantees he's a lowlife racist thug. And this Barnhill prosecutor who saw no evidence of anything except the McMichaels defending themselves ...

You have to be a racist piece of **** to twist that video into being in any way a video a juftifiable shooting. That you feel the need to do it is evidence that you are.

In Georgia everybody learns as a child not to point a gun at someone unless you intend to kill them. Everyone's daddy told them that as a little kid. It's Georgia. Not London, not NYC, not Idaho. Most of you probably never got sent to the store to buy gunpowder for the shotgun. Most of you probably never bought a rifle at Kmart. Or signed up for a new bank account to get the gift .22. Or shot a possum and then skinned it. If you didn't, or can't imagine it, you aren't in the right mindset to appreciate what the McMichaels are.
05-08-2020 , 01:08 PM
I moved far, far away to get forever away from those people.
05-08-2020 , 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bacalaopeace
Why don't some of you raving morons investigate the history of these miscreant murderers the McMichaels? One of them was a cop in Glynn county, which almost guarantees he's a lowlife racist thug. And this Barnhill prosecutor who saw no evidence of anything except the McMichaels defending themselves ...

You have to be a racist piece of **** to twist that video into being in any way a video a juftifiable shooting. That you feel the need to do it is evidence that you are.

In Georgia everybody learns as a child not to point a gun at someone unless you intend to kill them. Everyone's daddy told them that as a little kid. It's Georgia. Not London, not NYC, not Idaho. Most of you probably never got sent to the store to buy gunpowder for the shotgun. Most of you probably never bought a rifle at Kmart. Or signed up for a new bank account to get the gift .22. Or shot a possum and then skinned it. If you didn't, or can't imagine it, you aren't in the right mindset to appreciate what the McMichaels are.
Fair enough. I don't think anyone but maybe campfirewest was trying to justify the incident. The original OP was a commentary on whether what happened might have actually been legal due to local laws, and then of course the giant derail into criticism of US MSM (which is admittedly a honeypot topic for me).

Last edited by Kelhus100; 05-08-2020 at 01:25 PM.
05-08-2020 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by bacalaopeace
Why don't some of you raving morons investigate the history of these miscreant murderers the McMichaels? One of them was a cop in Glynn county, which almost guarantees he's a lowlife racist thug. And this Barnhill prosecutor who saw no evidence of anything except the McMichaels defending themselves ...

You have to be a racist piece of **** to twist that video into being in any way a video a juftifiable shooting. That you feel the need to do it is evidence that you are.

In Georgia everybody learns as a child not to point a gun at someone unless you intend to kill them. Everyone's daddy told them that as a little kid. It's Georgia. Not London, not NYC, not Idaho. Most of you probably never got sent to the store to buy gunpowder for the shotgun. Most of you probably never bought a rifle at Kmart. Or signed up for a new bank account to get the gift .22. Or shot a possum and then skinned it. If you didn't, or can't imagine it, you aren't in the right mindset to appreciate what the McMichaels are.
Are you from Glynn county? Or somewhere else in Georgia?
05-08-2020 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelhus100
Fair enough. I don't think anyone but maybe campfirewest was trying to justify the incident. The original OP was a commentary on whether what happened might have actually been legal due to local laws, and then of course the giant derail into criticism of US MSM (which is admittedly a honeypot topic for me).
I had absolutely no problem with your OP.
05-08-2020 , 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by fredd-bird
His name was Ahmaud Marquez Arbery. His dad's name is Marcus Arbery Sr., older brother Marcus Arbery Jr. and a sister Jasmine Arbery. Just search that local news site for Arbery and you'll see many of their athletic accomplishments proudly mentioned in articles, as well as an updated article with his actual name about weapon possession.
Thanks very much for the info found a CNN interview with Mr Arbery's father on YT after reading your post, thanks again.
05-08-2020 , 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by bacalaopeace
I moved far, far away to get forever away from those people.
It sounds like you grew up somewhere in the Southeast, in which case you know that your previous post was a wild exaggeration. Maybe 1% of the residents of Glynn County have skinned a possum. Maybe the same percentage opened up a back account mainly to get a .22. Buying guns at Walmart or KMart, on the other hand, is definitely a thing. That's pretty much where you go to buy a hunting rifle if you live in that sort of area.

I also think you may have some delusions about how different rural Idaho is from rural Georgia.

That said, I agree that it is LOL to focus more on Arbery's background than on the McMichaels's backgrounds, especially given that the McMichaels were the ones riding around in a truck confronting people with guns.

I won't be the least bit surprised if we learn the McMichaels are racist good ole boys, but it serves no purpose to promote the idea that the South, even the rural South, is like the set of Deliverance.
05-08-2020 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by wiiziwiig
Wow, no wonder he got his ass beat.
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Originally Posted by campfirewest
He's not exactly a class act.
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Originally Posted by RFlushDiamonds
He went down fighting.

Odds are he's been around the block a few times because I suspect most people would just do as they're told when a shotgun is pointing at them.

Still, you can't just murder someone for property crimes.
I mean, you can down South if you're white and the guy is black but you know, youtube and all.
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Originally Posted by Rococo
I'm sort of amazed that guys like campfire are anxious to tiptoe down this path again after the George Zimmerman debacle. If you stan for civilians who confront and shoot unarmed people, there is a significant chance that, once all the facts come out, you will learn that you have been stanning for a completely terrible person.
I was obviously referring to Ngo not being a class act. If you read my earlier posts you would realize I'm not actually defending the shooters.
05-08-2020 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by campfirewest
I was obviously referring to Ngo not being a class act. If you read my earlier posts you would realize I'm not actually defending the shooters.
You cited a post from Ngo for the proposition that "Arbery is no angel." It's pretty hard to interpret that post as a criticism of Ngo. And it's even harder to avoid interpreting that post as speculation that Arbery was doing something wrong that caused him to get shot.
05-08-2020 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by bacalaopeace
WOne of them was a cop in Glynn county, which almost guarantees he's a lowlife racist thug.

Kel is taking his punches, as he should, but I'm certain no one will talk about this racial profiling.

EDIT: looks like Rocco got'em.
05-08-2020 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
Maybe you are right. I assume that a lot of the early defenders of guys like George Zimmerman and Cliven Bundy are embarrassed about what idiots those guys turned out to be, but maybe they don't care.
Or maybe they looked at the actual case in question. If Arbery was, in secret, a serial killer, it still would not justify people chasing him down and murdering him. Why should someone be embarrassed if someone turned out to be a piece of **** afterwards?
05-08-2020 , 03:24 PM
I won't be the least bit surprised if we learn the McMichaels are racist good ole boys---

lol The pics weren't good enough?

The whole 'jogging' sidebar is just silly. Who gives a **** what this guy's prior rate of speed was? Is walking not legal or doing whatever the fk else you want as long as you're not hurting any one? These goons were most likely just offended a black dude was just rolling thru their neighborhood and took it upon themselves to put him in his place. That they were openly armed pretty much shows they weren't looking for any positive/peaceful outcomes--they went looking to start trouble. Even if the guy was looking to steal some 2x4s how would these morons really know? Maybe he was out home-shopping--but the shooting would've probably started even sooner if these guys knew that was the case.


but I'm certain no one will talk about this racial profiling---

Except for the part where we have other pertinent details outside race alone to make an educated guess.
05-08-2020 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
Kel is taking his punches, as he should, but I'm certain no one will talk about this racial profiling.

EDIT: looks like Rocco got'em.
I thought I mentioned it.
But honestly, does anyone have to?
05-08-2020 , 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas
Kel is taking his punches, as he should, but I'm certain no one will talk about this racial profiling.

EDIT: looks like Rocco got'em.
Ahh yes, at least we can finally get to The Real Racism Problem™ here, of people on an internet poker forum (who literally aren't involved in any way) stereotyping cops in a case where three white dudes chased down, shot, and killed a black man.

Glad to talk about the real issues with you.
05-08-2020 , 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by mchamr
Or maybe they looked at the actual case in question. If Arbery was, in secret, a serial killer, it still would not justify people chasing him down and murdering him. Why should someone be embarrassed if someone turned out to be a piece of **** afterwards?
You completely misunderstood my post. I never said anything that remotely suggested that the shooting would have been justified if, coincidentally, Arbery turned out to be a serial killer.

I was suggesting that previous attempts to defend idiots like Zimmerman didn't turn out too well, in part because Zimmerman's behavior after the shooting seriously called into question the reliability of his statements about the shooting.
05-08-2020 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelhus100
Also FWIW the "jogging" narrative the MSM is running with is surely a red herring. As far as I can tell at some point his mother said something to the effect of, "I think maybe he was jogging" and suddenly that turned into a narrative where he was a jogger. It is so typically predictive how the MSM can run with a narrative of their choosing on the flimsiest pretense and all the wokesters will just completely accept it uncritically.
Man running outside, white t-shirt and shorts; no way he's out jogging.

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As far as I can tell at some point his mother said something to the effect of, "I think maybe he was jogging" and suddenly that turned into a narrative where he was a jogger.
Source?
05-08-2020 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
You completely misunderstood my post. I never said anything that remotely suggested that the shooting would have been justified if, coincidentally, Arbery turned out to be a serial killer.

I was suggesting that previous attempts to defend idiots like Zimmerman didn't turn out too well, in part because Zimmerman's behavior after the shooting seriously called into question the reliability of his statements about the shooting.
Sorry. I wasn't trying to say that you were suggesting that in the first paragraph. I was suggesting that if you don't know what someone has done in the past or what someone will do in the future, then it's hard to hold that against people when they make judgments in the moment. If Zimmerman would have been a model citizen afterwards, I wouldn't think that was grounds for his defenders to tell people "I told you so." But, yeah, it turns out he is nuts.

As for Arbery, I think we can agree that the 'defense' is going to try and drag up every little thing he has done wrong in life. However much or little they find means nothing to me because those two guys would have no knowledge of any of it.
05-08-2020 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelhus100
This is all a giant tangent, but the point is that as of yesterday the people coming into this thread that only saw MSM reporting had very strong opinions on the incident, but no clue about what actually happened, and I had to direct them to DailyMail so they could at less get some basic facts on the case.



This isn't a one off. This seems to be the rule. I think this indicates a big problem with how our MSM operates. You are free to disagree.
Do you think The Daily Mail has gumshoes out there working the beat? Where do you think a British tabloid got their information from?
05-08-2020 , 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by fredd-bird
Ahh yes, at least we can finally get to The Real Racism Problem™ here, of people on an internet poker forum (who literally aren't involved in any way) stereotyping cops in a case where three white dudes chased down, shot, and killed a black man.

Glad to talk about the real issues with you.
The problem in this case is not racism, it's murder. You racist who want to stereotype white people in response to what seems to be racism is just disgustingly hypocritical, especially when you start throwing your moral righteousness around. I get it, you care about racism, but not your racism, and not the murder. You keep standing on your low ground over there. Do you care about racial profiling, or not? I digress, any motivation for murder is bad.

You folks are just like the people who blame/stereotype every Muslim when a Muslim commits a terrorist act. Not only that, you claim a righteousness when you are called on it. Like, how dare someone call you out on your racism. It's the same type of hate as these two people seem to have.

Last edited by itshotinvegas; 05-08-2020 at 07:16 PM.
05-08-2020 , 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
Do you think The Daily Mail has gumshoes out there working the beat? Where do you think a British tabloid got their information from?
I imagine stuff like the AP/Reuters doesn't give a good enough of a hit when you're out looking to score some pure unbiased **** lol
05-08-2020 , 07:15 PM
I've seen countless reddit posts and news stories on this incident and it blows me away how wrong basically everyone is getting this. I realize most media outlets are biased to the left, and reddit is biased to the left, but this is like Jussie Smollett–tier delusion, or Nick Sandmann–delusion. Almost everyone is calling this a modern-day lynching, and painting Arbery as an innocent jogger who was gunned down by racists.

Really? You think a guy with past convictions for gun possession and theft, wearing what look like either Timberlands or high-top Jordans, wearing jean shorts, was out for a jog? How naive are you? You think he decided to go to a neighborhood miles away, across the freeway, snoop around a home that was under construction as a warm-up, then jog around in high tops and jean shorts? I've lived in hoods for much of my life, and jogging has never been a thing in the young black community. But I'm sure this guy who was literally caught on surveillance video burglarizing a home minutes before the shooting, was just out for a nice healthy jog.

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On the afternoon of Arbery's death, he entered a house under construction, triggering the owner's security system and recording video. Arbery's aunt subsequently identified him on the owner's video, saying that he was "looking, not stealing anything".[20] However, Waycross District Attorney George Barnhill wrote that there is video of Arbery "burglarizing a home immediately preceding the chase and confrontation".[3]
And I understand that most serious runners are jogging in Timberlands these days:


I wish there were a place I could live that wasn't infected with the leftist mind virus that makes people become delusional idiots.

      
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