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05-16-2020 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
They literally went into the wrong house. Hasn’t the daily mail informed you of this yet?



I love how you two in particular can just cloak your extreme ignorance in this cloak of msm lies about EVERYTHING. It is really convenient when you are wrong about everything.
Who is you two? Slighted posts about something that I have no idea what it because I don't watch CNN or read Daily Mail, I say it's bad and you're here to act like a pompous asshat?
Do you think no knock warrants at 2am are a good idea?

Last edited by Luckbox Inc; 05-16-2020 at 02:00 PM.
05-16-2020 , 01:53 PM
I will concede the point that I would lose an IQ contest to any regular poster in this Forum, with the possible exception of JoesixIQ.

My body is 62 going on 82, and my brain is 62 going on 12.
05-16-2020 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Luckbox, I agree with everything he said. And I have a higher IQ than you by stipulation, coz you declined the bet on that basis. Ergo, I must be right.



Your play?
It doesn't work that way.
But you're also free to quote something dumb I've said. (And I have a lot of posts so they do definitely exist).
05-16-2020 , 02:00 PM
My U.S. Chess Federation rating is 1812.

Can anybody here top that?
05-16-2020 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
They literally went into the wrong house. Hasn’t the daily mail informed you of this yet?
No, it hasn't.

I am legitimately curious where you are getting this information. As far as I am aware, not even WaPo has indicated this to be the case.
05-16-2020 , 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
I will concede the point that I would lose an IQ contest to any regular poster in this Forum, with the possible exception of JoesixIQ.

My body is 62 going on 82, and my brain is 62 going on 12.
That's not as important as how big your biceps are anyway.
05-16-2020 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelhus100
No, it hasn't.

I am legitimately curious where you are getting this information. As far as I am aware, not even WaPo has indicated this to be the case.
I'm guessing markksman is confusing details with the case where a cop went into a flat thinking it was their own and shot the resident thinking they were an intruder.
05-16-2020 , 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelhus100
No, it hasn't.



I am legitimately curious where you are getting this information. As far as I am aware, not even WaPo has indicated this to be the case.
link
The wrongful death lawsuit apparently alleges that they went into the wrong house.


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Originally Posted by Willd
I'm guessing markksman is confusing details with the case where a cop went into a flat thinking it was their own and shot the resident thinking they were an intruder.
The Amber Guyger stuff which actually was fake.
05-16-2020 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
My U.S. Chess Federation rating is 1812.

Can anybody here top that?
I'm not rated, but I'll give you a game if you want. I'm not very good, though, despite the nick.
05-16-2020 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
link
The wrongful death lawsuit apparently alleges that they went into the wrong house.
I hadn't seen that claim and reading through the lawsuit I have no idea why it's being claimed. The lawsuit even explicitly says that they had a "knock and announce search warrant for Breonna's apartment". There's certainly a claim that the warrant was no longer enforceable because the suspect had been taken into custody in an earlier search but there's no indication that it wasn't the correct apartment as specified in the warrant.
05-16-2020 , 02:53 PM
I read the lawsuit. The lawsuit indicates the warrant was served to the correct house.

Additionally, the lawsuit laid out a fairly compelling case why the incident was unlawful, but it never once claimed that there was no connection between Taylor and Glover (the actual drug dealer the warrant was for). If that were actually the case, I imagine that not only would WaPo and DailyMail have picked up on this by now, but the lawsuit would mention it.

Putting all the evidence together, I would speculate there is some sort of connection between Glover and Taylor (although it could have nothing to do with drugs, drug dealers are allowed to have connections outside their "job," just like everyone else), and the defense lawyer claiming it was the "wrong house" was gaslighting.

But time will tell I guess.
05-16-2020 , 03:24 PM
After reading a bit more I think it's just very sloppy reporting in the article that Luckbox linked. Specifically this paragraph is just wrong as the lawsuit says nothing at all about it being the wrong house:

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The family’s lawsuit, filed April 27, alleges that the officers not only went into the wrong home but were seeking a suspect who had been arrested earlier in the day and was already in police custody at the time of the shooting.
The WaPo article linked from there seems like it does a much better job of sticking to the facts.
05-16-2020 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
I'm not rated, but I'll give you a game if you want. I'm not very good, though, despite the nick.
Sounds like fun. PM me and we can play on an online chess website of your choice.
05-16-2020 , 03:47 PM
Kelhus you are right. It was the right address. It is just that the two main suspects on the warrant did not live at that address.

As to the particulars, it’s sucks that criminals might destroy evidence when a warrant is being served, but the trade off that people are killed for no reason is police simply need to risk the chance criminals will destroy evidence.

I would be interested to know what happened to the search warrants they obviously had to serve simultaneously at the residence(s) of the main suspects.

I am also curious about the research on the best time for a no knock warrant. I am sure there is research and I could even see it supporting doing it when people are asleep. However when you weigh in people being disoriented when waking up and more paranoid at 3am than 3pm when someone comes to their house, I have to wonder if it makes sense to do it that way.

Last edited by markksman; 05-16-2020 at 03:55 PM.
05-16-2020 , 03:49 PM
It’s really weird to me that guys like Luckbox and Kelhaus are super concerned about the billionaire owners garage tainting the media they can choose to or choose not to consume... but they have little
Concern about the billionaire garage that own their grocery stores and supply chains
05-16-2020 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Natamus
It’s really weird to me that guys like Luckbox and Kelhaus are super concerned about the billionaire owners garage tainting the media they can choose to or choose not to consume... but they have little
Concern about the billionaire garage that own their grocery stores and supply chains
I don't know about Kelhus, but you can rest assured that LB doesn't like that either. I'm sure he is aware of a lot of conspiracies that that involve the military-agricultural complex and supply chains for essential goods.
05-16-2020 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
I'm not rated, but I'll give you a game if you want. I'm not very good, though, despite the nick.
I was wondering. Shouldn't it be Nd2_e4 in that case?
05-16-2020 , 04:38 PM
As far as I'm aware there was no "no knock" warrant involved in the Breonna Taylor case so I'm not sure where people are getting that from. The lawsuit alleges that the police ignored the "knock and announce" condition of the warrant and illegally forced entry unannounced.
05-16-2020 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
They literally went into the wrong house. Hasn’t the daily mail informed you of this yet?



I love how you two in particular can just cloak your extreme ignorance in this cloak of msm lies about EVERYTHING. It is really convenient when you are wrong about everything.
So based on what we're learning this post has become an enjoyable chock-full-of-irony.
05-16-2020 , 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Willd
As far as I'm aware there was no "no knock" warrant involved in the Breonna Taylor case so I'm not sure where people are getting that from. The lawsuit alleges that the police ignored the "knock and announce" condition of the warrant and illegally forced entry unannounced.
the local paper was running the story that there was a no knock.

https://www.courier-journal.com/stor...on/3115928001/
05-16-2020 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I was wondering. Shouldn't it be Nd2_e4 in that case?
I don't get the joke. Knights can't get to e4 without some serious running around. Or was this like the "grammer" joke?
05-16-2020 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
the local paper was running the story that there was a no knock.

https://www.courier-journal.com/stor...on/3115928001/
Interesting, I wonder what has resulted in the conflicting reports. I don't know enough about who would have access to the specifics of the warrant to have a good idea as to which is likely to be accurate, although it seems like it would be a strange thing to get wrong in the official lawsuit.
05-16-2020 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
I don't get the joke. Knights can't get to e4 without some serious running around. Or was this like the "grammer" joke?
I assume the point is that a knight is the only piece that can legally make the move d2 to e4. Also it only takes two moves for a knight to get from its starting square to e4: b1->d2(or c3)->e4.
05-16-2020 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Willd
I assume the point is that a knight is the only piece that can legally make the move d2 to e4. Also it only takes two moves for a knight to get from its starting square to e4: b1->d2(or c3)->e4.
That makes sense. Also, did I mention I am really, really bad at chess?
05-16-2020 , 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by RFlushDiamonds
That's not as important as how big your biceps are anyway.
Good point.

      
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