Even if they did catch him red handed breaking into a home, it's still straight up murder.

Just like the Trayvon Martin shooting, it's probably a bunch of guys who wanted to be heroes, combined with racial bias against black people. Both times, the police were called and both times they continued to pursue their "suspect," armed with guns and both times there was a confrontation and the unarmed black male died.

Well, Zimmerman was found innocent of all charges, so probably not the perfect comp if you think this was straight up murder.

He's not exactly a class act.

I thought republicans believed the more guns in schools the better like the good old days?

The Ga. dudes are toast

Even if this is true, what I am supposed to be inferring from this observation?

It's what Zimmerman's lawyer said about Trayvon Martin. "He was no angel." The implication was that he deserved it and/or his alleged poor character was a mitigating factor in the killing.

When reading the daily mail it also helps to know brunswick georgia personally.

What happened is that someone stole a pistol from the ex copsbgarage, a gew days later he ssaw a black man jogging gotvall crazy deliverance style mad and he and his son shot theoff guy because they are backwoods racist bigots from south georgia and that's how **** goes down down there.

Wait, this wasn't satirical??

I mean if it isn't satire you're a total piece of garbage and should be banned and possibly stoned. If it is you're okay.

I don't think that's relevant within the context of what happened. However there's talk online that his real name was actually Ahmaud Marquez Avery and that the name is deliberately changed so people can't find out his previous history. Does anyone know if this is true? There's an article here but I can't access it ("451 legal reasons")
https://************news.com/news/lo...216c042c0.html
And now I can't seem to post the article


The url is the brunswick news . com . news/ local_news / police-arrest-four-in-span-of-an-hour
article_23db5ae1-9e5d-519e-a683-c1a216c042c0.html

if anyone googles Ahmaud Marquez Avery they should find the link

Does the article have a photo and is it the same guy?

There's also a youtube vid highlighting this


I disagree at present with the uploaders conclusions and have commented twice on the vid. Bottom line the McMichaels appear to have instigated things.

But I'm wondering if Arbaury/Avery are the same person as again I can't access the article.

My comments
Comment 2

Exactly. Dude wasn't armed those in the pickup were and the guy gets out of the truck to confront the guy running, so clearly instigated it.

There's talk that the cameraman was armed as well
article on him here
https://heavy.com/news/2020/05/william-roddy-bryan/




I'm aware of the literal meaning of "lynched" but this really isn't helping

He went down fighting.

Odds are he's been around the block a few times because I suspect most people would just do as they're told when a shotgun is pointing at them.

Still, you can't just murder someone for property crimes.
I mean, you can down South if you're white and the guy is black but you know, youtube and all.

I'm sort of amazed that guys like campfire are anxious to tiptoe down this path again after the George Zimmerman debacle. If you stan for civilians who confront and shoot unarmed people, there is a significant chance that, once all the facts come out, you will learn that you have been stanning for a completely terrible person.

That is how tribalism, ideological and physical, works universally. It isn't particular to "guys like campfire." There are plenty of examples going both ways. Willingness to be contrite after the fact once you have tied your horse to a specific wagon would be the exception, not the rule.

Also FWIW the "jogging" narrative the MSM is running with is surely a red herring. As far as I can tell at some point his mother said something to the effect of, "I think maybe he was jogging" and suddenly that turned into a narrative where he was a jogger. It is so typically predictive how the MSM can run with a narrative of their choosing on the flimsiest pretense and all the wokesters will just completely accept it uncritically.

Zimmerman was a punk.
Martin may have been one also but he has the excuse that he was still a boy.
No one should have been shot there because Zimmerman shouldn't have engaged him and after he did he shouldn't have pulled a gun, he should have taken his beating like a man and called it a day.

And this case is very much the same.
These 3 dummies put themselves in a situation where he was either going to surrender to them or get shot. Just following him around would have made it clear to him that he was being watched. That might have been enough to scare him off if he was doing something wrong. But vigilantes aren't rational enough to put things in perspective. They want the violence. Hence this is an easy felony murder imo. We'll see what the jury does. They may let them go because it's GA but you really can't confront people with guns because they're committing property crimes. Let the cops handle it.

So let's assume he was running because they caught him inside a house.

Justify his execution.

I’m not justifying it.

I am just pointing out how the media continually lies and manipulated you guys. And you guys have no critical resining capacity at all to discern it. This isn’t a one off. This happens every day all day.

Does it bother you at all your emotions are just a plaything to be manipulated at will by the media for their own ends, and you seem powerless to do anything about it?

guy on the “analysis” video was making a huge deal about how his shorts were “falling off his ass” and “joggers wear sweatpants” so i assume the justification is gonna be “if the pants don’t fit, you must acquit”.

So you know how I was talking about you reaching conclusions based on ideology rather than reality? This is another perfect example. The jogging thing isn't something that was only mentioned offhand by his mother. It came from everyone who knew him, such as neighbours who say that he was literally known in the neighbourhood as being a regular jogger:

and his high school football coach who last saw him when they were both out running:

he was proly running bc 3 crazy dudes with guns were going after him

I'm not the one being emotional here though.

I understand that the media's main goal to sell advertising.
That's capitalism (are you against that now too ?)

But in this case we know certain things. We can see what happened and we can draw our own conclusions as to the actions were reasonable if the accusations regarding the property crimes are true.

I am guessing Victor is correct. Give me your gut Wild. Do you think he was really out jogging?

Also again, I am not basing my conclusions on ideology. I am basing them off carefully reading what the articles actually say, and what they don't, which leads me to conclude the whole jogging angle is a big fat red herring.

Well, reasonable and legal are 2 completely different things. What really caught my eye about this case is that it seemed possible the vigilante's actions were legal, which was surprising. But the fact they are in jail now indicates that they likely weren't legal, and the original DA who dropped the case was probably not doing his job very well.

I don't think anyone is arguing the vigilante's actions are reasonable.

ahh yes, indeed a good outlook and something should practice

surely Kelhus will take his own advice and show contriteness as the truly impartial and non ideological observer he portrays himself as.

oh