I've attempted this method with kelhus in the past. He'll just dismiss it because it doesn't conform to his Daily Mail GOAT media outllet narrative.

You can generally expect something like "Well, I didn't see that when *I* checked CNN. Maybe it wasn't there then/was hidden at the bottom of the page/insert bullshit theory here"

Wow...

It's still murder, and once again we are reminded how the focus on race in an all out effort to make it racially motivated distorts the advancement of justice.

Possibly but any non ludicrous justice system hinges on reasonable force.

And I've also seen tons of people acting like he was just defending himself as any reasonable person would do when accosted by men with guns. If two guys with guns are shouting at me to stop and that they want to talk to me or that they've called the cops, and then I see them stopped 30 yards up the road, I'm not going to run TOWARD THEIR TRUCK, instead of, say, running IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION, or even, PERPENDICULAR TO THE ROAD. I also think—if I weren't engaged in criminal activity—CALL THE POLICE MYSELF SINCE GUYS WITH GUNS ARE HARRASSING ME. But maybe I'm a rare bird. I guess a reasonable thing to do would in fact be to run thirty yards straight at their truck, and when I see the guy standing with a shotgun next to the driver's side door, run around the truck and then sprint at him from the passenger side and try to take the gun away from him. That's totally what a guy just out for a jog in Timberlands who wasn't burglarizing a house would do.

As for the two white guys, as Kelhus says in the OP, I don't see what they did that was illegal. It's aggressive to go after some burglar who likely stole a handgun out of your truck a few weeks ago, and who's been burglarizing other houses in the neighborhood, with loaded guns. But since they know as well as anyone that cops usually don't do **** and aren't going to investigate, catching the guy red-handed seems like a reasonable move. And since he likely stole a gun from you (and coincidentally also has a prior gun conviction) carrying guns along seems reasonable. At least if you have guns, it should prevent the guy from trying to attack you (you would think, especially if he's just a jogger). They called 911 and said that's what they were doing. They don't want him to get away this time while the cops mosey over there. It's legal to open carry in Georgia. They stop their truck 30 yards away from him and were almost certainly telling him to stop (in the 911 call you can overhear them yelling at him to stop). So they hold him there for a few minutes and then the cops come and sort it out. But instead Arbery freaks out and attacks the guy with a shotgun and tries to rip it from his hands. What is the white guy with the shotgun supposed to do?

How can you look at this incident and conclude that these guys are murderers and Arbery was an innocent jogger? Unbelievable. Free Jussie Smollett. Lock up Nick Sandmann.

I'll help you out. They followed, shot, and killed an unarmed man.

No it isn't. So if you stand outside holding a gun and someone runs up to you and tries to rip it out of your hands and you shoot them during the struggle, you're a murderer? Arbery wasn't cornered or anything. He ran thirty yards to get to the truck, and then sprinted around from the passenger side and attacked the guy with the shotgun who was standing on the other side. Up to that point neither white guy had done anything illegal. The first illegal thing that happens (besides the burglary) is Arbery attacking the white guy and trying to rip his gun away.

I wonder what percentage of people just on this forum have been in houses under construction in their lives and didn't end up arrested for burglary or anything at all? Hell, maybe we could ask the guy what he was doing--if he wasn't executed for it.

Another glib response from someone infected with the liberal mind virus.

I'll help you out: two law-abiding citizens told a criminal burglar to stop and he attacked them and they lawfully defended themselves. The criminal burglar died as a result of his own stupid and violent criminal actions and the two law-abiding citizens should be fully exonerated.

The men weren't minding their own business when some random guy come up and snatched the gun out of their hands. By their own admission they were following him

You seem to have a lot of facts about the case that are not public knowledge. Care to share the inside scoop? I, for one, would be curious to hear the first-hand account of someone who was there.

Oh, you weren't, and you're just making **** up? Never mind, then.

There's a difference between checking out a construction site and burglarizing one. Read what I quoted from Wikipedia in my first post in this thread. I don't know if he was stealing tools or copper wire or what, but the DA specifically said he was burglarizing a house. Thousands of dollars of fishing equipment was stolen from a home under construction 30 days before. Use your brain. And we could ask him if he hadn't assaulted a guy with a gun. It's not an execution when you run thirty yards to attack someone with a gun and then he shoots you in self-defense.

The men with guns seemed to have covered more ground chasing after an unarmed man and, in fact, used mechanical means to charge man more effectively. We can therfore assume they were the ones actually charging the man.

They went and got a gun and chased this guy. If they don't have the gun, you might have a point. Introducing the gun is what makes it aggravated assault, and consequently murder. It was unlawful to chase the guy with a gun.

https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/...hooting-death/

Oh, so the DA who is buddies with the suspect said the shooting was justified because the victim was a burglar? Case closed then, nothing to see here.

Also the sentence for burglary shouldn't be death

Wait can you zoom in a little closer? I still can't tell if they're Jordans or Timerlands.

But, but, why didn't he run away from the pickup truck chasing him? Sad case of SBR, obviously. Suicide by redneck.

This is the part that was unclear. I am sure it is in CA or NY, but in Georgia is it? And it seems that is what you would need for it to be a murder charge. That someone died while you were breaking the law. And since the current DA (or state attorney?) is charging them with murder I guess it seems that is what they are going to argue. So we will find out. And of course once it has gotten this political good luck finding an impartial jury.

Of course. And as you said, even if they knew he was a really bad guy, it wouldn't justify chasing him around with a gun if he was unarmed and not doing anything wrong.

Someone left thousands of dollars of fishing equipment in a home that was under construction ?

And they cried when it went missing ?


Anyway, it's not the business of these three nit wits to protect the construction sites. That's what insurance is for.

Sometimes Francis, people just touch your stuff.

It is clear. Just read the aggravated assault law.

The act is chasing the guy with a gun.

Doesn't that make it seem like he was jogging.
If he were running away from vehicles chasing him on the road wouldn't he run off the road and cut through someplace to take the advantage of the vehicle away ?

Meh, I don't know anything except what we all see in the video.

But I hear he wasn't wearing the latest suburban jogging fashion and that's a crime too. lol

Charged with murder and aggravated assault? bUt tHe GuY wAS weArInG tImBErlaNDs! amiwhite?

He was being chased by 2 cars. The car recording was chasing him too. And it appears that person may be charged with murder also.

As to why he decided to charge the guy with the shotgun instead of running into the woods, I don't know his thought process. Maybe in the moment he decided he couldn't really navigate running off-road in untied Timberlands and jean shorts that were falling down, so he decided to make a stand.

Maybe you can point us to the evidence that shows he was burglarizing a construction site or that he had stolen fishing equipment 30 days earlier. I obviously can't know for sure what he was doing, but you seem quite sure, so I'd be curious to see the evidence.