It didn't cause a riot because she got what she wanted. We can play that game all day if you want, but just state your position: is what she did dangerous or not?



Of course it's not fine; most partisans do not like people being objective.

I don't think Trump won the election and I think most in his party don't think he did either, but he's the most popular in their party so they toe-the-line.

I don't see all Republicans as far right nor do I see all Democrats as far left, but I view most all of them as self-serving pieces of shiit.

I think what she said was dumb, but she doesn’t have an army of brain dead morons to riot like Trump/Hartley/Cruz etc. the fact that we are talking about this rather than actual riots caused by dem politicians seems like sn asymmetry that can’t be ignored but you are trying your best to.


Sure and I see you the same way you see Dems and republicans. That’s why I’m able to correctly call you out as you’re blinded by your need to tow the line to your obviously wrong views.

I see. So the towns that were burned for weeks had an equal mix of Republicans and Democrats in the group of rioters? Also, letting towns burn is just as bad, if not worse, than encouraging rioting.



Which views would those be and how are they self-serving?

Towns being burned is a horribly inaccurate description of what went on. Of over 2000 blm related protests over 3 months, 200 reported some level of property damage including looting. Much of the looting was opportunistic and not in anyway political. I see you the same way you see republicans because of inaccurate and obviously agenda driven phrasing like that. That’s why I view people like you as “self-serving pieces of shiit.”

You clearly said that home invasions and rape were happening too. I clearly said that it's never a good idea to stand outside and confront an angry crowd with your fake courage. It won't help and will very likely make things worse.

If you're married you found one of the girls who is even dumber then you. Odds are you would eventually, as I said.

Yeah, bro, I really don't care about semantics. There was over a billion dollars in damages from the riots. That's good that only 10% of the protests caused damage, but you can't just gloss over $1-$2 billion in damages and pretend it's insignificant just because it wasn't $10 billion.

Is it the protesters' fault? Nope, they're exercising their constitutional right to protest and are not damaging anything.

Is it the rioters' fault? Nope, they're rioters and that's what you'd expect them to do.

Is it the looters' fault. Nope, they're just basking in the chaos and getting theirs, doing what you'd expect them to do.

Is it the fault of the leaders in those towns? You're damn right it is.

Your problem is you attribute things to me that I don't stand for nor said I did.

Link the posts where I said that or stfu.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=1682

Huh? it’s clearly the looters and rioters fault. In the Jan 6 riot it was the insurrectionists fault as well as prominent republicans who lied about the 2020 election and the routine vote counting on Jan 6. If Obama or Biden told obvious lies that got people to gather and riot I would lay some of the blame on them. But that has never happened. Which is why only crazy people and idiots pretend like republicans and democrats are the same.

Pubs should speak out against the 1/6 fiasco, and Dems should speak out against the rioting and looting, but your point was only 10% of the organized protests caused $2 billion in damages so it's okay to not acknowledge it, but lol at the assertion that NO Dems ever stir the pot.

And yes, Republicans and Democrats care about you equally, which is to say, not at all.

You haven't shown a good example of a high level democrat being a sine qua non factor in violence like Trump was for Jan 6. I assume that's why you're bringing up irrelevant stuff that I never talked about like whether dems care more about me than republicans. I have no delusions that major corporations care about me either, but when out interests line up I don't mind supporting them with money.

Well no. I don't think I could post a quote that you would read in the same light as you would read a Republican's quote.

But people on both sides read pretty creatively. Was Trump inciting violence when he said the following at a rally: "I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to argue with them and get in their face." Some say he was. I don't think so.

This!!!!!!!!!

Iirc, Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA) literally encouraged people to publicly harass Trump Administration Officials .

I think he’s responsible for the riot because the people who rioted were only in DC because Trump told them to come. He lied about the fact that Biden won the election, he lied about the fact that somehow Pence was the person who decided who won, rather than the American people and he told them to go to the Capitol where they committed hundreds of felonies, many of them violent.

I don’t see Democrats any more culpable for riots as me or you.

Please cite the exact quote(s) in which Trump told anybody to "riot".

Thanks.

Is "No Justice, No Peace" an incitement to riot?

Thanks.

Did I say Trump told them to riot?

I thought you said he was responsible for causing rioting on 1/6.

Not by any legal standard.

I agree!

In my opinion, I don't believe that Mr. Trump incited the 1/6 insurrection by any legal standard either.

I did….right before I explained exactly why I thought he was responsible.

So? He never told them to be violent, did he? And only a small handful were violent.

I think that he literally believed in his heart of hearts that he won the election. He was wrong, but I don't think he was lying.

What felonies did Mr Trump instruct the crowd to commit?

I don't believe than any politicians are responsible for any rioting in the past several years.

From 2016 vs Hillary:





It was pretty clear he was going to do this. Also, him saying he's going to run in 2024 is tacit admission that he thinks the election was fair. Why run again if the fix is in?

This entire last page (for me) has nothing to do with topic at hand. Therefore, y'all must be done with the thread topic.