A gift shop lady in bum**** Oregon couldn't come to work for a couple weeks after a dispute from the Clinton era came to a head.

If that's your best attempt at a parallel to CHAZ, then I'll take that as you agreeing with the original statement.

Cliven and Ammon Bundy say hello.

LOL. I'll take your total lack of response to my post (beyond minimizing conservative armed takeovers of public land) as an acknowledgement that you have no ability to rebut it

losboy:

The "McGovern style electoral defeat" you suppose is not likely. (Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Nixon won 49 of the 50 states in the 1972 election. Trump appears headed for defeat, but not by a landslide 49-1 margin.)

For the sake of argument, let's assume you are correct and Biden achieves a decisive victory. In that scenario, what are the odds Trump mounts a successful resistance refusing to relinquish power? The odds are slim to none and the reason is simple: Pure politics.

If Trump goes down, he won't go down alone - a substantial number of elected Republican pols, especially United States senators, are likely to go down with him. If three (or more) incumbent Republican senators are defeated - which looks increasingly likely at this point - the anger (and bitterness) directed against Trump will be palpable. There are already indications that endangered Republican senators - fully cognizant of negative polling numbers - are starting to turn on Trump. (Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy are meeting with Trump today in the White House trying to persuade him to change his mind about increasing funding for Coronavirus testing and relief efforts. Trump is adamantly opposed to increased funding for testing. It's nonsensical, but Trump thinks the reason infection rates and death counts are shooting up is because of increased testing.)

So there are already signs Republicans are starting to run out of patience with Trump. When election day arrives, if the GOP suffers massive losses at the polls, the blame will immediately shift to Trump. What used to be unquestioning fealty will quickly turn to undisguised anger and contempt. In the aftermath of devastating losses, (including the loss of both chambers of Congress), there will be little appetite for continued kissing of Trump's backside.

In such an environment, anything Trump might try to invalidate the election results or cling to power, will be quickly rebuffed by members of his own party. The one thing politicians hate is a loser - especially when that "loser" is a member of their own party. In the aftermath of a decisive Trump defeat, the impetus within the GOP will be to quickly forget Trump and vanquish the "Trump virus" from the GOP bloodstream.

The grisly aftermath of the occupation.

The Park Ranger couldn't use his locker for a month.

Of course, that's if you're willing to lump Bundy into the same group as those who create and occupy areas like CHAZ.

It's telling that both of you came up with this as your best comparison.

Go read those Wiki articles and check some citations. Here is the one they used as proof of "far-right extremism" being at the root of the occupation.

It would be amusing if it wasn't so sad.

Would be civil war.

This is probably true. At least, I hope it's true.

This is mildly reassuring, but I'm still convinced Trump's gunna try to pull some ****, if only for his own vanity. Otherwise the whole 'replace Postmaster General with GOP stooge who has a mandate to slow down the mail' move is just bizarre.

Also, I'm not scared of Trump trying something and pulling it off as much as I'd really just like to avoid the anger and unrest that would result from his contesting the results at all.

It's an armed takeover of public land, of course it's comparable! It was smaller in degree than something like CHAZ, but you didn't demand some equality in degree when you originally made the very dumb post that led to this:

Other than the name, that literally happened! Multiple times! That you're sitting here downplaying one and condemning the other demonstrates exactly my point, you're as full of **** as the rest of your conservative Trump-loving friends.

The impact of the Bundy event was felt mostly by a few Desert Tortoises, and the one person in charge of staffing that building in the middle of the desert.

So no, I don't put it on the same level and it's a ridiculous comparison. Your nitpick is considered and rejected.

Hahaha, yes, neutral arbiter Inso0 who would totally admit if he was shown to be full of **** would like everyone to know he is, in fact, not full of **** (but only after careful consideration and introspection!).

There's a reason Rococo and I jumped on the same thing: because it's patently obvious to anyone reading this that you're a fraudulent hypocrite. We know you don't think you are, and no one expects that to change even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

Biden's Hilarious Response To Trump's [Possible] Refusal To Accept Election Results

“The American people will decide this election. And the United States government is perfectly capable of escorting trespassers out of the White House.”

Damn I hope he doesnt leave as chances are there will be no new shows this fall so we need Trump Reality TV

I bet the RNC is really nervous right now. In one sense they really aren't in that different of a spot than they were in the summer of 2008. They were coming off a beat down in the 06 midterms, they were getting blamed for the Iraq War, Katrina response and the financial crisis was front and center. Somewhat similar to Russia/impeachment, BLM protests and Covid response. In 08 and in 20 republican self identification crashed. Republicans of course got beat handily in the 08 election, but they were basically completely back by 2010 with big midterm wins.


Of course the gigantic difference between now and then is that failed former POTUS Bush just went away and wasn't constantly riling up the dem base by saying idiotic stuff/ reminding people that he exists and was terrible at his job. That seems like exactly what Trump will do making a quick turn around much harder to imagine.

I guess russia gate didn't happen ey

you guys just like to hide from reality lol and create your own

so much delusion