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08-31-2021 , 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by jayhawks
Biden not addressing nation until tomorrow afternoon? Wtf
Wish he would go get a round of golf in first.
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08-31-2021 , 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperGrover123
Wrong, but at least he can spend more than 4 hours awake per day
Biden doesn't use stimulants though.
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08-31-2021 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperGrover123
Wrong, but at least he can spend more than 4 hours awake per day, and doesn’t need permission from his handlers on who to call on during press conferences. But hey, I’m sure you’re proud that you voted for the guy who got 13 young marines killed last week.
Something like 60 Afghanis died in that attack. But their mothers expelled them from their womb in a different geographical location than your mother expelled you from hers, which means that they're not completely human to you and they never enter your moral calculus.

Marines aren't inherently superior beings to non-Marines or Afghani civilians or whoever else. Our crimes in Afghanistan and Iraq have killed hundreds of thousands. I and any other decent human will gladly swap the lives of 13 Americans for thousands of Iraqis, Afghanis and others (I get that it's not that simple; the power vacuum left by our withdrawal will create some violence and deaths as well; but the point easily remains).

For the record, I thoroughly despise Joe Biden and did not vote for him or anybody else.
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08-31-2021 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DifferentName
Something like 60 Afghanis died in that attack. But their mothers expelled them from their womb in a different geographical location than your mother expelled you from hers, which means that they're not completely human to you and they never enter your moral calculus.

Marines aren't inherently superior beings to non-Marines or Afghani civilians or whoever else. Our crimes in Afghanistan and Iraq have killed hundreds of thousands. I and any other decent human will gladly swap the lives of 13 Americans for thousands of Iraqis, Afghanis and others (I get that it's not that simple; the power vacuum left by our withdrawal will create some violence and deaths as well; but the point easily remains).

For the record, I thoroughly despise Joe Biden and did not vote for him or anybody else.
Huh? Please site where I said once that Afghan lives aren’t important. What is it about this site and the lack of reading comprehension?
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08-31-2021 , 04:18 PM
It's all bad though. Republicans and right-wingers are gonna make piles of hay from these soldiers dying.

Benghazi 2: Electric Boogaloo. Can't wait. I'm hyped for the inevitable hearings where politicians who directly take money from defense contractors (or were straight up American military like that Cawthorn guy) are working up crocodile tears as they pretend to hold concern for Afghan girls or whoever.
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08-31-2021 , 04:27 PM
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08-31-2021 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
It’s wild that a leftist such as yourself follows Breaking911.
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08-31-2021 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
It’s wild that a leftist such as yourself follows Breaking911.
What is Breaking911
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08-31-2021 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
It’s wild that a leftist such as yourself follows Breaking911.
I follow like 8 people on twitter and that's not one of them.

Tell me about them? Are they a hate site? If so, mods please delete that tweet. My apologies.
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08-31-2021 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Monstrous! Delivering medical aid and food to a poor and war-torn country? Unthinkable!
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08-31-2021 , 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein2
Monstrous! Delivering medical aid and food to a poor and war-torn country? Unthinkable!
Why would you think that?
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08-31-2021 , 05:10 PM


Now I don't anything about breaking 9/11 but I do know that Greenwald is a bad guy-- just look at him cheering the deaths of those kids here.
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08-31-2021 , 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
What is Breaking911
It’s blatant rightwing disinformation that our resident leftist seems to find very credible.
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08-31-2021 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperGrover123
Wrong, but at least he can spend more than 4 hours awake per day, and doesn’t need permission from his handlers on who to call on during press conferences. But hey, I’m sure you’re proud that you voted for the guy who got 13 young marines killed last week.
If only we had stayed in Afghanistan another 20 years, we could have saved those 13 lives!
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08-31-2021 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperGrover123
Wow, not even going to justify your hateful comment with a response. Maybe you should direct your comments to the parents of the dead 13 Marines. You seriously need some help, maybe a good therapist could assist you. What a sad life you must lead....
Hateful?

It is a lot MORE hateful to support our wars of imperialism and resource conquest (particularly in Iraq) with all of the hundreds of thousands of lives lost and all the misery involved, than to simply value American lives at the same rate as non-American lives. You're the hateful one here.

I'd freely say this same stuff to the parents of the 13 dead Marines if they were ITT. I wonder what YOU would say to the parents of the 500,000 dead Iraqis we produced (probably a higher rate of death than even Saddam would have achieved!). Just kidding, I know you wouldn't bother to say anything at all, because they're not fully human in your eyes.

My life is cool. Up about 200k over the last 6 months playing online poker. You mad? Maybe I'll donate 50k to Antifa in your honor.

Last edited by DifferentName; 08-31-2021 at 06:20 PM.
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08-31-2021 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
It’s blatant rightwing disinformation that our resident leftist seems to find very credible.
Luckbox is significantly to the left of you on a number of issues.

He also has a big-time conspiracy/contrarian feature within his ideology, which he shares with the Alex Jones and/or libertarian types. That's how he can simultaneously support tweets from right-wing lunatics AND make posts railing against the military-industrial complex and neoliberalism, without his head exploding.

Many of his posts drive me nuts, but he's genuinely more of a leftist than you are, no doubt.

Last edited by DifferentName; 08-31-2021 at 06:23 PM.
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08-31-2021 , 06:25 PM
I mean I don't follow breaking 9/11. Someone I do follow (probably a right wing lunatic) retweeted it and I posted it here (without comment and I don't care at all that the US is going to give assistance to the Taliban now-- and they probably do need it) because this is the Afghanistan thread and because it is sort of interesting.

And yeah of the handful of people I follow on twitter, some are extreme leftist conspiracy people like Caitlin Johnstone and others can be put on the right like James Lindsay or perhaps McWhorter.
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08-31-2021 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DifferentName
(or were straight up American military like that Cawthorn guy)
I don't think claiming you -really- wanted to be in the military actually counts
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08-31-2021 , 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
You're so dumb. That was a clip from abc news with George Stephanopoulos.

Do you think it was a deep fake?
No. But the tweet from the site you quoted tried to present that clip in a dishonest, deceptive way.

You fell for it and copied and posted it.
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08-31-2021 , 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein2
If only we had stayed in Afghanistan another 20 years, we could have saved those 13 lives!
Ya that is not realistic.

Given another 20 years there though we could maybe have empowered an Afghan gov't that would have lasted a month after the US withdrawal.

Is that too much to ask in exchange for those gains??
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08-31-2021 , 07:40 PM
Right wingers care for fallen soldiers only exists when they are deployed into an unjust forever war and then any one that dies as they exit.

Keep the war going another 20 years and all these right wing complaints go away as the soldiers death count ticks forever up.

It is similar to them caring for cops only if they enforce the law against 'others' but think the cops should be killed if they enforce the law against them.

Sad to say but the right is genuinely broken.
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08-31-2021 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
No. But the tweet from the site you quoted tried to present that clip in a dishonest, deceptive way.



You fell for it and copied and posted it.
What?

How was any of that presented dishonestly?
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
What is dishonest here?
The only thing that I can I could see is that the word 'may' there could be replaced with 'will'-- as Sullivan seems pretty unambiguous about what the government's intentions are vis-a-vis Afghanistan aid.

Is that what you had in mind in calling it dishonest?

Do you really think the use of 'may' instead of 'will' makes it dishonest though?
ETA: actually no-- 'may' is totally appropriate there. Stephanopoulos asked if the US will give the Taliban aid. Sullivan says that aid should go directly to the people of Afghanistan, then follows it up by saying that the Taliban receiving aid themselves depends on their actions.

So what did I fall for Cuepee? Fell for clicking to view one of your posts for sure.

Last edited by Luckbox Inc; 08-31-2021 at 08:11 PM.
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08-31-2021 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I mean I don't follow breaking 9/11.
Or believe that it happened.
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08-31-2021 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein2
Or believe that it happened.
I believe that 9/11 happened. I remember the day quite well.
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08-31-2021 , 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I believe that 9/11 happened. I remember the day quite well.
Please don't say anymore about 9/11. Unless you fully accept the MSM narrative, you will be temp-banned.
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