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You seem to be putting all folks with money into a box. I have lived the 60-80 hour work week life and agree it is dreadful. However, in my case, it gave me the necessary savings to go out on my own (acquiring/operating RV parks). I now have the time to take my sons to school every day and pick them up, engage in hobbies (right now that hobby is F-class rifle. before it was POKER!. In about a month it will be quail hunting, then deer hunting, then quail hunting again), and spend about 90% of my weekly hours doing what is most important to my life at the time. Working all week is fine IMO until you have kids. Then it is important to be available and present for them. I do credit Poker for showing me how to make rational business decisions as they relate to investments heavily. But once I figured out how to play the game of capitalism, poker stopped feeling so fun. Now when I play, I get to be the degen. I find this far more entertaining so long as my table isn't trying to make a living off it. That is a buzzkill to me. Luckily, I have found a room of mostly degens in my area that is always around should I get the urge to play. I used to be a MTT nut, but can't ever find the time since having kids.

Money doesn't make you happy but in my experience, it sure doesn't make you unhappy.

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That's great, and it sounds like you're living a good life. No, I'm not saying that all people with money are the same. Just that the more money people have, the more likely they are to have dehumanised themselves and dehumanised others in order to acquire it. Our culture venerates money, status and power. We can certainly agree that there is a minimum level of all those 3 things such that below that level we can experience extreme unhappiness. But equally clearly, attempting to achieve far more of those than we need directly leads to both our own unhappiness and that of those whose lives we touch.

the guys is bragging about being an absentee landlord for trailer parks. hes about the lowest of the low. at least drug dealers provide a product.

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09-21-2023 , 11:07 PM

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wreckem713

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Originally Posted by Victor

the guys is bragging about being an absentee landlord for trailer parks. hes about the lowest of the low. at least drug dealers provide a product.

You are confusing RVs with Manufactured homes. They're effectively travel stops. Of the 20% of folks that are there long-term, they have their own homes elsewhere. Most are wealthier than me

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09-21-2023 , 11:18 PM

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PointlessWords

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Originally Posted by Victor

thats capitalism tho init

Capitalism doesn’t involve bailouts imo certainly not rich people bailouts

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09-22-2023 , 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Victor

thats capitalism tho init

Hard to call a an economy without recessions a capitalistic economy .

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09-27-2023 , 08:22 PM

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formula72

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The mayor did everything but get on his knees and beg and plead Walmart not to leave. Obviously he doesn't share your beliefs. I wonder who is more likely to understand the situation and be wrong on this, you or him?

t doesn't seem like you all are really grasping what it means to have whole sections of a city be "food deserts" with no access to anything but liquor store junk food.

4 stores out of 8 are closing in Chicago. It isn't the zombie apocalypse or Liquor store junk food as your only option. A lot of B@M targets and walmarts and such have been closing all over in shitty areas for a while and that will continue to do so - mainly because traditional stores aren't going to be around in the same numbers in the future. OF course the mayor wants Walmart to stay but it's a hell of a lot more complicated than that and Chicago can and has existed without Walmart.

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09-27-2023 , 08:24 PM

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formula72

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Originally Posted by Karl_TheOG_Marx

My preferred, stronger version of socialism has an easy answer for this -- these types of behemoth businesses cease to exist.

I'm sure you're busy but I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on how we can seize these businesses and why them not existing is best for the American people?

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09-28-2023 , 07:08 AM

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wazz

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I'm sure you're busy but I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on how we can seize these businesses and why them not existing is best for the American people?

How is likely to be 'by force', given power does not like giving up power.

As to why, well, the bigger corporations get, the worse it is for democracy.

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