There is going to be a difference in people just arriving who are living in shelters or on the streets vs people who are settled.

Incorrect. People upholding the laws of their country arrest them.

Apparently you hate freedom too.

They're legally seeking asylum. Weird how this has to be explained over and over.

Sounds like you need things explained to you, not me.

There is a procedure for claiming asylum. Just crossing the border doesn't automatically make you an asylum seeker. An application has to be filed. Legally this should be done at a port of entry. It should also be done at the first country they arrive at after fleeing their home country.

Until it has been determined why you are in the country then you are subject to arrest.

Hope that helps.

Incorrect again.

Have you not bought anything that comes with a manual the last 20 years?

Well, not according to actual law:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1158

Every part of this post is a lie.

Yes but the front pages are exactly the same. Here in Canada we get English and French.

What source did you rely on for your understanding of asylum procedures?

First country you enter applies to many countries other than the USA I thought. I thought the USA's rule differs??

Of course not. You need to be fluent in like 15 languages to read those things!

Various countries have entered into so-called "first country" agreements with each other. I believe that the U.S. and Canada have such an agreement. I believe that there have been discussions between the U.S. and Mexico about such an agreement, but as far as I know, nothing was ever signed.

A rule was passed under the Trump administration that would have had a similar effect as a first country agree. That rule was deemed to be in violation of the INA.

The Trump administration implemented another rule in 2020 that was grounded in a public health rationale. I think that rule was an attempt to avoid conflict with the INA. I know that rule was challenged but I'm not sure where it stands now.

the mainstream liberal position is to virtue signal while applauding Joe Biden for locking up kids in cages and building a wall and Obama for being the deporter in chief.

their position is the same as Republicans but they just dont want to talk about it. they sure as **** dont want them in their cities and thats why they are so mad about this MV thing.

Where are the liberals mad about immigrants in Martha's Vineyard instead of being mad about them being sent there under false pretenses? I don't think most liberal city dwellers have a problem with immigrants in their cities. Immigrants and non-white people make up a huge chunk of liberal city inhabitants. You could easily make a case for liberal NIMBY suburbanites though.

This is pretty much horseshit, especially as to NYC and Southern California.

Needless to say, Republican leaning border patrol agents don't agree with this assessment.

Eh, he has a point. Mainstream Dems are pretty horrible on immigration, although I grant they are considerably better than Republicans.

That is a different question. He can criticize Democratic policy on immigration without pretending like it is identical to Republican policy.

Maybe you're talking about Title 42. As it stands (afaict) a court order has blocked the Biden admin from rescinding it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_...ulsion#History

it is functionally the same. the only difference is the rhetoric.

the media coverage is different too.

the link micro added caused outrage.

but now we have people defending Dems and everyone is quiet about this part

It's functionally very close. Biden and Obama have turned away and detained millions and millions of people. When detained, these people have ended up in the same private prisons as they are when Trump detains them and when they are turned away they are turned away to the same conditions. You can look at the most obvious tens of thousands of people (people shipped in these busses or separated children) and find important differences, but the vast majority of the tragedy is happening among the millions of people where it's the same.

Why? Hard to say for sure. Obviously Republicans are more hostile to immigration in general. I think some Dems are just being weak and scared and afraid to commit to a position and feel that as smart centrists they need to compromise. Athiest? No, agnostic. Legalize drugs? No, decriminalize. Open immigration? No, immigration reform. But, there are plenty of Democrats who talk just like Republicans about being overrun and criminals and speaking English and how we can't be a country if we don't control this (all completely reprehensible notions imo). So anyway, I would say on average Democrats are moderately different in their inner hearts, but barely different in outcomes.

Yeah, they did defend it and then they tried to rescind it. It could be explained as part of them now having a covid is over policy, but imo it's just them lacking convictions and trying to find the right line politically.