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I think more people are just loving or intrigued by the sxxt show called the USA. What once was the greatest country in the world is now reduced to the two best people you can choose from are a Corrupt Donald Trump and a Corrupt disorientated Joe Burden .

Hey I want Trump to win its better for Canada and the Dems deserve it

If u would really believe on judicial system using evidences as proofs, not wishful thinking ,
and agree without evidences not much truth should be devoted to it , u would stop using bad « faith » conspiracy theories talking points ….

But u don’t believes in non bias evidences so keep falling into the rabbit hole .

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11-17-2023 , 05:30 PM

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If u would really believe on judicial system using evidences as proofs, not wishful thinking ,
and agree without evidences not much truth should be devoted to it , u would stop using bad « faith » conspiracy theories talking points ….

But u don’t believes in non bias evidences so keep falling into the rabbit hole .

Yes if he is convicted by a jury I would believe it. I am not sure what conspiracy theories I am touting ? Joe Burden is corrupt?

Imagine if the Dems ran Andy Beshear as the nominee it wouldn't even be close.

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11-17-2023 , 06:06 PM

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But you don't believe the results of civil trials, right?

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11-17-2023 , 06:12 PM

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Mask finally off.

Wasn't much of a mask

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11-17-2023 , 06:14 PM

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But you don't believe the results of civil trials, right?

Who said that I said the burden of proof in a civil trial is less .

I just don’t think they impact many people’s decisions. One occurred 20 years ago and the other has no victims and looks political when the prosecutor campaigns on I’ll convict Trump

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11-17-2023 , 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Victor

Trump hasnt helped do any genocides yet so I dont think this is a road you wanna go down.

Many Americans are dead due to his covid bullshit
I have one dead in my family because he convinced her to not get the vaccine

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11-17-2023 , 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by lozen

I think more people are just loving or intrigued by the sxxt show called the USA. What once was the greatest country in the world is now reduced to the two best people you can choose from are a Corrupt Donald Trump and a Corrupt disorientated Joe Burden .

Hey I want Trump to win its better for Canada and the Dems deserve it

Not that we haven't known all along
This imo makes you a coward.
Not enough balls to admit you're a fascist/far right supporter

You really do fit right in with the fascists considering how much you lie and whatabout

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11-17-2023 , 06:45 PM

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option 3, it’s not insane and it’s called doing your own thinking instead of letting people tell you how to think.

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Nothing is stopping you from doing your own thinking about the criminal charges he's facing.

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Originally Posted by spaceman Bryce

That’s what right wing nuts and crooked cops have said for generations.

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They've been telling you to make evaluations based on available evidence? What are you even talking about? His own lawyers have plead guilty already. This isn't not some made up ****.

No I meant the idea that we should judge someone based on criminal charges, which by the way, is insane.

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11-17-2023 , 06:50 PM

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It isn't the main line, at least for me. Before Trump was elected president, I was very vocal in saying that I thought he was a complete shitbag.

Whether you were voting for him or not isn't really the question. People are responding to your statement that someone's criminal record would have no bearing on whether they would be a good president. People are assuming by extension that you wouldn't view the conduct that led to the criminal conviction as having any bearing on whether someone would be a good president.

But that may not be what you intended to say.

I don’t know ( and didn’t say) that someone’s criminal record would have no bearing on whether they would be a good president but rather that someone’s criminal record would have no bearing on whether I would think they could be a good president. I wouldn’t factor that into my voting decision. I would judge them on the content of their character and their ideas. If someone wants to disqualify someone for having a criminal record that is up to them as an individual voter.

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11-17-2023 , 06:55 PM

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Many Americans are dead due to his covid bullshit
I have one dead in my family because he convinced her to not get the vaccine

You’re so full of it Covid restrictions were a state issue . Trump delivered a vaccine quickly and never said don’t get the vaccine . Covid shots were mandatory to remain employed federally as well

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11-17-2023 , 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp

I guess we would had a great judicial system with condemn crooked judge .
And by some miracle it would be less problematic for a crooked president ?

The track record of Crooked president being great for the country and its people is long right ?

I don’t know how this addresses anything I wrote , but it’s close enough to where I get it.

First off, I don’t think someone is necessarily crooked just because of a criminal record or an arrest record.

Second, in Kansas Laura Kelly , our liberal governor appointed a convicted felon to the sentencing commission against many peoples wishes. He had served 7 years in leavenworth prison. I thought this was fantastic, and I think a supreme court with a few criminals on it would be way better than the supreme court we have now.

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11-17-2023 , 07:02 PM

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No I meant the idea that we should judge someone based on criminal charges, which by the way, is insane.

no, it's not insane at all. the vast majority of the time when criminal charges are brought they're brought for a reason. we can also look at the facts alleged on our own.

not judging trump for trying to overturn the 2020 election is insane.

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11-17-2023 , 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by caseIIclosed

What about Donald Trumps history would make anyone imagine he wouldn’t try to use all available means to win? It didn’t surprise me at all he tried to overturn the election. If he had been judged by his character and his ideas none of this would’ve happened in the first place.

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11-17-2023 , 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lozen

trump and the right are the reason the richest country in the world had the most covid deaths

Why did you finally decide to man up and admit you're a fascist? We knew anyways but im curious. Anger?

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11-17-2023 , 07:14 PM

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Many Americans are dead due to his covid bullshit
I have one dead in my family because he convinced her to not get the vaccine

Biden has had exactly the same policy. And it was the Dems who insisted on a primary before any vaccine.

This is yet another example of no difference between the parties.

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11-17-2023 , 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by lozen

Falling for truth based on false or non evidence is yes , falling for conspiracy theories or slandering .

Like the stupidity of 2020 stolen election u claim joe biden is corrupt as much as trump .

I rather take real concrete evidences instead of your talking points from Twitter .

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11-17-2023 , 07:33 PM

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Well I wouldn’t trust a prior crooked banker with my money and my life on the line to a past criminally indicted judge .
But your welcome to do so .

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11-17-2023 , 07:35 PM

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Biden has had exactly the same policy. And it was the Dems who insisted on a primary before any vaccine.

This is yet another example of no difference between the parties.

Biden wasn't in office in 2020

trump and the GOPtards rallied against masks and vaccines

they are still against the vaccine as we speak

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11-17-2023 , 07:38 PM

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Biden wasn't in office in 2020

trump and the GOPtards rallied against masks and vaccines

they are still against the vaccine as we speak

Primary. The Dems insisted on a Primary during COVID bc they thought it gave them a better chance to beat Bernie.

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11-17-2023 , 07:44 PM

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Well I wouldn’t trust a prior crooked banker with my money and my life on the line to a past criminally indicted judge .
But your welcome to do so .

what if they were really cool?

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11-17-2023 , 08:05 PM

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what if they were really cool?

As friends yes sure !
Not as my employees or representatives .

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11-17-2023 , 08:35 PM

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bryce, gun to your head and you have to sleep with one of them - but on your terms - whatever they may be

trump or biden?

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11-17-2023 , 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rickroll

bryce, gun to your head and you have to sleep with one of them - but on your terms - whatever they may be

trump or biden?

I’m not answering this. sorry but I can’t.

Also, this is a serious thread about the election. For serious thoughts.

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11-17-2023 , 08:53 PM

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it's because it's both at the same time isn't it

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11-17-2023 , 09:31 PM

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Just joe or can cornpop join in?

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