Its official RFK running as Independent .

He may draw votes from both sides

I'm just calling out a factual error. Nothing else.

I dont think even Trolly would consider the Dems left leaning in comparison to the rest of the world.

theres a reason you wont defend your argument. its ok, you can just adjust your rating. it doesnt change anything.

again, I am not really sure why you want to be classified as left leaning. not asking you to change your views (lol as if).

The rest of the world regards both parties are far right.

whatever makes you guys feel better

Since the only thing I really know about him is his anti vaxx stances and the fact that trump is not a very anti vaxx candidate he might be able to pull some of those people away from trump.

I wish he would just go away. Vanity 3rd party runs are so dumb.

the only person trying to feel better is yourself (and the rest of the Dems) who desperately want to be considering left wing while supporting all kinds of conservative and even reactionary viewpoints.

finally lozen has the candidate he can vote for... oh wait.


i still dont see what demo he pulls from the dems, like describe the dem that is voting for an RFKjr(I) ticket. other than just the idea that all 3rd parties play spoiler in general.

Nah if I had a vote as an American I would vote NO Labels if they had a candidate and otherwise Cornel West no chance I could vote for Trump or Biden

Maybe some who think Biden is too old and aren't familiar with RFK's wilder viewpoints, and a few more who would rather back a Kennedy than Trump or Biden. But he might also provide an alternative for Republicans who know they can't vote for Trump. So in the end, it's probably just...

haha, thats quite an ideological spread

Its more of a protest vote unless the No Labels had a strong candidate.

Now if my only choice was Biden or Trump and had to vote yikes

You, and 99% of the rest of Democratic voters, have probably never heard him speak on a broad variety of topics. On most of the big policy topics he is very left leaning (environment, pollution, regulation of big business, wealth distribution), much moreso than the Democratic Party is. That is why it is so important for The Establishment to discredit him and label him "right wing" and not give him a platform where anyone with leftist sympathies would ever hear him speak.

So I agree with you, but that is because of the efforts of the establishment, not anything in his messaging that wouldn't attract many potential Democrat voters.

My understanding is that like Biden he also has some skeletons in the closet as far as his personal life and family. But whereas The Establishment protects Biden, I think they would throw RFK to the wolves and we would see a lot of these skeletons popping up in MSM articles if they ever thought he would take Dem votes.

Well of course we have not heard rfk speak on issues. He's never held office. He does not have the experience needed to run for president. It's a vanity campaign for a nepo baby.

the RNC put out statements condemning RFK jr for running as an independent, and urging republicans not to vote for him.. i think they too see that he's not enticing to actual dem voters when Biden is on the ballot. he's only polling as well now in the abstract.

Most nepo babies don't have a father and uncle who were assassination victims. Tough to give him that label too easily. I think he is a more complex case than that.

If anyone would like to hear him on some issues:



I watched this several weeks ago. As I expected, he's quite reasonable on some issues, and pretty far out there on some others IMO.

you can build 1000 bridges and have sex with 1 goat, and you're considered a goat ****er not a bridge builder..

Agreed. To be perfectly clear, not a man I think should be elected to public office, and certainly not running a country.

Not tough at all. If he didn't have the Kennedy name no one would care who he is.

What about a goat though....

do you believe this tho

Im gonna remember this quote. Its great.

How can you not

He can do whatever he likes with the goat, as long as it consents.