You’re misinterpreting what I mean when I say he’s popular

Among republicans his popularity is unquestioned. It’s why the entire ****ing party has bent to his will to the point his daughter in law is the RNC chair. No Republican has held this much popularity within their own party since reagan

He is also viscerally despised by the majority of the country since republicans are the minority party. And because of both facts the republicans have failed in every election 2018 onward

If you disagree with any element of this post idk what to tell you

He may be convicted, but there's almost no chance he'll end up in prison. This isn't Italy.

Based on the outstanding cases and the immunity ruling I agree with this

If Harris wins and he tries to pull another 1/6, different story

Funny you say that but yes I might be biased by a longstanding myth in Italian culture than "unlike us", you do actually put criminals in jail even if high profile

Dems hate primaries because there are so many factions and each one gets a microphone for months railing on the others. Trump doesn't have to unite the right. It's lock-step behind him.

Fyi you're not allowed to post trolling pics.

Per mod

10 infraction points for you.

Why do you people lie is the question.

Biden took a higher proportion of the primary vote than Trump got this cycle.

Heavily contested primaries happened for republicans

yeah i'd say both parties hate primaries for the same reason - trump absolutely neutered the careers of a few guys who were rising stars in the party who are now nowhere close to as popular as before they went toe to toe with him

lol nah

Yes trump ejected all the RINOs and some got threaten by hanging when u go against trump …
Is that what we call rallying behind a leader ?

Yeah Trump did as well as Gore and HW Bush in their primaries. Which is effectively starting as the presumed nominee but going through the motions of a primary. Don’t think Dems hate primaries though. The 08 primary was one of the parties high points.

It is good that the democrats rail and quarrel, and it is bad that the GOP is now in lock-step.

I like it when politicians are handicapped by having to garner support and be pragmatic. It stops the state and government from having too much power and it gives a voice to minority views.

And while it can at times be ineffective or water down idealism, it is also an effective barrier towards critical errors because it is harder to ignore criticism.

But the trump croud has no where to go but shrink and if he loses its obv going to be tough to win in 28.

Trump isnt going to gain more votes within the gop in 28

you guys can be anti-trump/anti-republican without making stuff up. they had a primary this cycle, and all the top contenders (haley, desantis, christie, ramaswamy, pence, etc) ran, and trump got 76% of the vote. it's roughly 10000000000% more legitimate and competitive than brandon winning a sham primary against dean phillips, marianne, and something called jason palmer. actually "uncommitted" finished 2nd with 4.25% of the vote lol

The Trump crowd doesn't shrink. Its the republican party that shrinks. It shrank by like 15% from 2016 to 2020 and then Trump got the second highest total of votes in US history (where Biden in the same election got the most) so the Trump crowd grew. And then after Jan 6 the republican party shrank again probably by 15%. It will be interesting to see if Trump will gain from undecideds in 2024 like he did in 2016 and 2020.

If Trump loses in 2024 then 2028 will likely be a disaster. The Republican party can't dismiss him. But he may choose not to run again because losing for him is devastating. or he may be truly incoherent by then...

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his speeches have become more incoherent and his recent "what if biden fights and becomes the nominee again and i can debate HIM" fever dream tweet was an unforced error i don't think he'd have made last cycle. highly unlikely he'd be candidate in '28

Do you really believe trump would not win the primaries ?
Reallly ?
The guy was always above 50% and never even had to do 1 debate lol …
Anyone knew from the start it was a done deal shrug.

Correct

Who’s saying it wasn’t legitimate? We’re saying moron republicans still overwhelmingly support Trump despite failing as a president and failing as an ex president.

I of course though you meant popular in the country. There is really no comp to Reagan in the modern era in terms of overall popularity. He won the 1984 presidential election by 18 percentage points. He won 49 or 50 states and lost Mondale's home state of Minnesota by just 0.4% (less than 4000 votes).

As for what you wrote, I would mostly agree, although I would put it slightly differently. Trump has the largest contingent of virulent supporters within the GOP of any person since Reagan. Having a relatively large number of virulent supporters is very helpful when it comes to winning primaries and threatening party dissidents.

I don't agree that his appeal inevitably will endure no matter what.

Whoever loses goes to prison. Maybe not kammy, but Joe for sure.

This is America now.

Disaster.

For my entire lifetime, neither party has ever held debates and a truly competitive primary process in a situation where the incumbent president was seeking reelection. You can think whatever you want about that phenomenon, but it indisputably is not a Democratic Party thing or GOP thing. It is a both parties thing.

Presidential immunity plays for both teams, right?

Joe Biden going to prison for.......

They couldn’t even impeach Biden despite that keystone cop like impeachment hearing.