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08-10-2024 , 08:18 AM
Fox's strange campaign against Taylor Swift.

For people against cancel culture they sure take part in it quite often.

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08-10-2024 , 08:37 AM
Elon Musk ramps up efforts to tip the election to Trump

Billionaire openly engages in election interference to secure tax cuts.

using "register to vote" prompts to collect highly detailed information from potential voters in swing states

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08-10-2024 , 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
One of the lies is that POTUS doesn't write laws
This sort of "lie" has been around for my entire lifetime. Presidential candidates always say, "when I am president, I will ensure that XYZ happens," even if XYZ requires the approval of Congress.

Trump lies all the time, but I didn't view his repeated proclamations to repeal the Affordable Care Act as chief among those lies. Like everyone else, I understood that he was speaking in shorthand about what he hoped to accomplish.
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08-10-2024 , 09:40 AM
Trump has nuked himself. Probably in Kamala's interest to continue to stay in hiding so she doesn't nuke herself.

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08-10-2024 , 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by housenuts
Trump has nuked himself. Probably in Kamala's interest to continue to stay in hiding so she doesn't nuke herself.

She should hide in Joe's basement and let Try destroy himself
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08-10-2024 , 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by housenuts
Trump has nuked himself. Probably in Kamala's interest to continue to stay in hiding so she doesn't nuke herself.
It's been a great few weeks for Kamala, but this election is still very much up in the air.

I do believe that a loss would mark the end of Trump as a person of serious influence in the GOP. Voters tend to be very unforgiving toward presidential candidates who lose to relatively weak opponents. Trump was able to mute that effect a bit by convincing the lunatic wing that the election against Biden was rigged.

But two consecutive losses to Biden and Kamala? I don't think he would be forgiven for that monumental underachievement.
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08-10-2024 , 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
It's been a great few weeks for Kamala, but this election is still very much up in the air.

I do believe that a loss would mark the end of Trump as a person of serious influence in the GOP. Voters tend to be very unforgiving toward presidential candidates who lose to relatively weak opponents. Trump was able to mute that effect a bit by convincing the lunatic wing that the election against Biden was rigged.

But two consecutive losses to Biden and Kamala? I don't think he would be forgiven for that monumental underachievement.
I would say three losses if he losses again as the GOP did horrible in the primaries many of Trumps hand picked candidates got destroyed
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08-10-2024 , 10:26 AM
Preet's last podcast on the VP pick is so great. Some highights:

-Right is going with the view that picking Walz is one of the biggest political mistakes of all time. That CRACKS me up. They scared.
-Walz vs Vance debate should be very good. Walz is very good on his feet and will do very well in the show.
-The momentum from the left right now is furious. And the "weird" angle is definitely landing.
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08-10-2024 , 10:44 AM
Playing dirty is like pride going before the fall. Seems like many of the Left's tactics would be better served in the weeks before Election Day, not months.
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08-10-2024 , 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
It's been a great few weeks for Kamala, but this election is still very much up in the air.

I do believe that a loss would mark the end of Trump as a person of serious influence in the GOP. Voters tend to be very unforgiving toward presidential candidates who lose to relatively weak opponents. Trump was able to mute that effect a bit by convincing the lunatic wing that the election against Biden was rigged.

But two consecutive losses to Biden and Kamala? I don't think he would be forgiven for that monumental underachievement.
Disagree entirely

If Trump loses it wouldn’t be his second consecutive loss, it would be his 4th. Both midterms were either lost or neutered because of him and his endorsements. Still, he’s the Republican Party and they’re in no position to quit him because he is the godking of MAGA and even if they’re a minority relative to the general public they’re a clear majority of the republicans and he will always be able to weaponize them to the polls against anyone who dares to speak against him

Trump can lose in November and even at 82 he’ll be the candidate in 4 years. As long as he’s alive he rules the GOP
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08-10-2024 , 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
It's been a great few weeks for Kamala, but this election is still very much up in the air.

I do believe that a loss would mark the end of Trump as a person of serious influence in the GOP. Voters tend to be very unforgiving toward presidential candidates who lose to relatively weak opponents. Trump was able to mute that effect a bit by convincing the lunatic wing that the election against Biden was rigged.

But two consecutive losses to Biden and Kamala? I don't think he would be forgiven for that monumental underachievement.
Harris is definitely doing better than I thought she would . Her ascent to the nomination went about as smooth as possible which wasn’t guaranteed at least imo. After Jan 6 and Trump costing the party the senate I’m not sure what short of death will get them to move on. And even then you’ll have people going over his tweets like first century christians inventing a second coming, all of this is part of the plan etc.
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08-10-2024 , 11:48 AM
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If you need a bot or/and someone you don't know anything about his credibility to tell you who has credibility or not...
I tend to meet people and get to know them before I can make an assessment of their personality. And the same for information. I tend to read it, see its sources and see if the narrative makes sense. But I understand that in this tiktok era it is hard to focus and read and listen to information. Unfortunately, everyone loses, but that is probably its purpose, to make people numb and dumb to be better controlled.

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No, we don't have a monarchy nor a dictatorship. Is this news to you?
You take a piece of my text and make a remark out of context? Well, maybe it was intended.
Yeah, I am pretty aware USA and many other countries have a kakistocracy and are trying to join that to a technocracy.
https://corbettreport.com/interview-...-kakistocracy/
https://corbettreport.com/qfc-technocracy/
https://corbettreport.com/interview-...f-technocracy/

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lol, you know it's going to be trash because it's trying to trade off of similarity to the colbert report like washington times tries to fool you it's washington post
Right, right... Amazing how you can come to such a conclusion, just because of that. That is going really deep. Congrats! <satire>
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08-10-2024 , 11:53 AM
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If you need a bot or/and someone you don't know anything about his credibility to tell you who has credibility or not...
This assessment was done by neither a bot nor someone for whom we have no idea of their credibility.

That assessment is done by a very well-known organization that reports on the credibility of media outlets, is very open about how they do this, and provides concrete examples to back up their assessment.

You can't just handwave that assessment away like that.
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08-10-2024 , 11:55 AM
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Disagree entirely

If Trump loses it wouldn’t be his second consecutive loss, it would be his 4th. Both midterms were either lost or neutered because of him and his endorsements. Still, he’s the Republican Party and they’re in no position to quit him because he is the godking of MAGA and even if they’re a minority relative to the general public they’re a clear majority of the republicans and he will always be able to weaponize them to the polls against anyone who dares to speak against him

Trump can lose in November and even at 82 he’ll be the candidate in 4 years. As long as he’s alive he rules the GOP
So why doesn't a Trump endorsement automatically guarantee a primary win even?
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08-10-2024 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
Disagree entirely

If Trump loses it wouldn’t be his second consecutive loss, it would be his 4th. Both midterms were either lost or neutered because of him and his endorsements. Still, he’s the Republican Party and they’re in no position to quit him because he is the godking of MAGA and even if they’re a minority relative to the general public they’re a clear majority of the republicans and he will always be able to weaponize them to the polls against anyone who dares to speak against him

Trump can lose in November and even at 82 he’ll be the candidate in 4 years. As long as he’s alive he rules the GOP
I agree that he was a drag on the midterms as well.

You are underestimating how quickly things can change. Critical mass can build quickly. You just saw how quickly the Democrats turned on Biden once they concluded that he had to go.
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08-10-2024 , 12:18 PM
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I agree that he was a drag on the midterms as well.

You are underestimating how quickly things can change. Critical mass can build quickly. You just saw how quickly the Democrats turned on Biden once they concluded that he had to go.
But that just isn’t the same. Biden never really generated enthusiasm among the Dems even in 2020 and was just a transactional candidate whereas trump is probably the most popular Republican since reagan
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08-10-2024 , 12:24 PM
joe wasn't a cult leader.

the cult will not turn on trump if he loses, it will simply loss the rubber stamp from the scumbags in the party like house that only cared about their pockets being lined.
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08-10-2024 , 12:30 PM
Trump is definitely a cult leader and comparing any candidate to him is a mistake cuz there simply has not been and is unlikely to be a candidate like him in american history who has such cultish devotion people deny reality to accept his version of it and engage in unrest, violence and outright terrorism for him

Treating him as a normal presidential candidate is a mistake
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08-10-2024 , 01:00 PM


Trump/Desantis 2028 is a lock
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08-10-2024 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
trump is probably the most popular Republican since reagan
Sure he is. That's why he loses so often.
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08-10-2024 , 01:02 PM
They are ALL Cult leaders... Tribalism is the only thing they have to run on any longer.
the issue is, which cult do you want to belong to... one of personal responsibility or one of oversight and entitlements.
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08-10-2024 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MSchu18
They are ALL Cult leaders... Tribalism is the only thing they have to run on any longer.
the issue is, which cult do you want to belong to... one of personal responsibility or one of oversight and entitlements.
LOL at thinking that Trump leads a cult of personal responsibility.
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08-10-2024 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MSchu18
They are ALL Cult leaders... Tribalism is the only thing they have to run on any longer.
the issue is, which cult do you want to belong to... one of personal responsibility or one of oversight and entitlements.

#bothsidesbad

Jokes aside, this is a bad take. The democrats are very much a coalition that straddles a wide variety of groups and ideology. They generally struggle to coalesce around one candidate.

In comparison, the GOP is now fully controlled by MAGA and so-called "conservatives" and we see in primary after primary that loyalty to Trump is the ruling obligation, ideology and record does not matter.
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08-10-2024 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
But that just isn’t the same. Biden never really generated enthusiasm among the Dems even in 2020 and was just a transactional candidate whereas trump is probably the most popular Republican since reagan
And Biden chose to give up the title of most important democrat. Good luck if you see Trump doing that whole alive.
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08-10-2024 , 01:27 PM
If trump loses these elections there is a very high probability he will end up in prison btw
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