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08-07-2024 , 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Gonzirra
Continuing to campaign against Joe Biden doesn't seem like the best strategy but it's at least on brand

Anybody remember the "Mack North" SNL sketches from the 90s? Not quite the same thing but reminds me of it. Will Ferrell wins a Congressional race and continues to run ads mocking the loser after the election is over

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpyr...nel=MattHarmon
Never heard of Mack North before, but I like it.
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08-07-2024 , 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve00007
I remember the first time I looked up Joe Biden on Twitter, and I thought whoever was writing up his tweets for him was doing a good job.

Every time I look at what Trump writes I know Trump actually wrote it.
There's a funny story from the guy who first set up Trump's twitter account and for a while Trump would tell him to tweet stuff. One day he saw Trump messing around with his phone for a long time and didn't think much of it. A couple days later he saw a Trump tweet he didn't send, he asked around and nobody else working for him did either and he realized it was Trump. He compared it to Jurassic Park when the raptors learn how to open doors.
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08-07-2024 , 01:08 AM
that tweet is amazing
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08-07-2024 , 01:57 AM
So I assume Harris plays the moderate out of the two?
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08-07-2024 , 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Didace
I can't believe you actually believe that. He doesn't "look like" he's ever taken an order is much, much different than "doesn't work well". Can you not see the difference? How about this - She doesn't look like she could be a CEO. And just to be clear, I don't think "look" in this case is anything other than his appearance.
I see where you're coming from with that as you're focusing more on the "look" than I was. I'd suggest there's an understandable double standard at play there, in that saying a woman doesn't look like she could be a CEO is in line with a lot of fairly common sexist viewpoints, whereas if someone said a man doesn't look like he's ever done X, my first assumption would be that it was based on characteristics of that particular person, not his gender. That's how I read the initial post.

Anyway, I think I've taken us down a bit of a derail here, so I'll let it go at that and agree to disagree if that's where we're at.
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08-07-2024 , 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
mutilation and sterilization of minors who think they are of the opposite sex.
Imagine trying to help people and demonstrably lower their suicide rates through methods that harm absolutely noone
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08-07-2024 , 04:54 AM
While the odds of Trump winning the election are slowly getting lower and lower on polymarket (at 52% now), the odds of a republican trifecta (which they call a "sweep" in that site) are at 33% after having recently touched a bottom of 28%.

Is it just noise, or we had some relevant house/senate polls coming out in republican favor?
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08-07-2024 , 06:20 AM
What in the world is this Walz guy? A political candidate with substance and character? What the hell is going on out there?
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08-07-2024 , 07:46 AM
A curios underdiscussed dynamic in recent polls is the large drop in support for RFK jr , who went from over 10% before the debates, to 5% now in polling averages (national).
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08-07-2024 , 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
A curios underdiscussed dynamic in recent polls is the large drop in support for RFK jr , who went from over 10% before the debates, to 5% now in polling averages (national).
Why is this curious? The percentage of people who will toy with the idea of voting for someone like RFK Jr. is much larger than the percentage that will actually do it. But as the election nears, many drift back to voting for someone who can win. And many start to pay a bit more attention and reluctantly conclude that the person who they were planning to vote for is a little nutty, a lot unprepared, or in the case of RFK Jr., both nutty and unprepared.

This happens fairly frequently in the U.S.
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08-07-2024 , 08:23 AM
08-07-2024 , 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
Why is this curious? The percentage of people who will toy with the idea of voting for someone like RFK Jr. is much larger than the percentage that will actually do it. But as the election nears, many drift back to voting for someone who can win. And many start to pay a bit more attention and reluctantly conclude that the person who they were planning to vote for is a little nutty, a lot unprepared, or in the case of RFK Jr., both nutty and unprepared.

This happens fairly frequently in the U.S.
Because it happened in like 40 days and we are still 90 days from the elections.

Ross Perot in 1996 was polling at pre-debate RFK jr numbers in the summer and ended up taking 8.4. RFK has already crumbled to 5% as the average of many good polls.

Johnson in 2016 was polling close to 9% up until the end of september (took 3.3% at the end). This recent example is probably what you have in mind.

It's surprising at least to me that people are seeing clarity so soon this cycle, especially given how low the net approval rates are both main candidates.

And keep in mind MANY states aren't in play at all (very popolous ones at that, often enough), so it would be the perfect opportunity for anyone not in love with either candidate to vote third party to signal that, in those states.
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08-07-2024 , 08:49 AM


El Señor Free Speech Absolutist does it again
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08-07-2024 , 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by biggerboat
Her emails!
This is a real exchange between the US legislature and a member of the executive branch

“Ms Clinton, did you wipe the servers where your emails were stored?”

“Like with a towel?”

Ok so first, she had illegally rerouted and stored executive branch emails away from public eye. Then the SECRETARY of state either lies or trolls the person interviewing them. She should’ve been arrested for contempt of court.



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Originally Posted by Gonzirra
Vance was a horrible pick though. Granted it's tough to find all that many ticket-ready Republicans who didn't at some point bash Trump, but he deserves the "weird" tag he's getting. Pence I understood fine but I'm not clear on what JDV is supposed to bring that they didn't already have
The election is over. Trump loses. His ear was never shot. Russia wins again
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08-07-2024 , 09:46 AM
S&P almost back to even from Monday’s KAMBLABA CRASH!!!!
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08-07-2024 , 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
S&P almost back to even from Monday’s KAMBLABA CRASH!!!!
Joe getting it done. Proving he's still mighty capable. Get him back in the race.
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08-07-2024 , 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
Because it happened in like 40 days and we are still 90 days from the elections.

Ross Perot in 1996 was polling at pre-debate RFK jr numbers in the summer and ended up taking 8.4. RFK has already crumbled to 5% as the average of many good polls.

Johnson in 2016 was polling close to 9% up until the end of september (took 3.3% at the end). This recent example is probably what you have in mind.

It's surprising at least to me that people are seeing clarity so soon this cycle, especially given how low the net approval rates are both main candidates.

And keep in mind MANY states aren't in play at all (very popolous ones at that, often enough), so it would be the perfect opportunity for anyone not in love with either candidate to vote third party to signal that, in those states.
Biden dropping out definitely had an impact on this as well. It's hard to even compare it to past 3 party runs for this reason. A lot of people were disgusted with those 2 geezers being the choices again after 2020. A lot of people hate Trump and it's been obvious that Biden's brain is basically a potato for a long time so they were gonna vote 3rd party.
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08-07-2024 , 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by borg23
Biden dropping out definitely had an impact on this as well. It's hard to even compare it to past 3 party runs for this reason. A lot of people were disgusted with those 2 geezers being the choices again after 2020. A lot of people hate Trump and it's been obvious that Biden's brain is basically a potato for a long time so they were gonna vote 3rd party.
Possible yes, but that in retrospect should then mean that RFK jr was getting votes/approval more from democrats-leaning people than from republican-leaning people, which wasn't obvious 2 months ago
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08-07-2024 , 09:55 AM
Donald Trump floating the idea that Biden may
try and crash the DNC and take back the nomination.

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08-07-2024 , 10:22 AM
Youngkin downplays Trump’s mass firing plan

they can just find jobs elsewhere

There are fabulous opportunities for folks to find a new employer in Virginia

executive order he tried to enact in 2020, known as “Schedule F,”
which would strip federal civil servants of their protections
and allowed Trump to fire people for whatever reason

Though Youngkin can seem genial in person, that persona
often feels like a cover for cruel and draconian policies.

https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/re...025-rcna165470
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08-07-2024 , 10:57 AM
It's clear the Democrats have quite a deep bench of compelling presidential/VP/cabinet candidates, whereas Republicans have Donald Trump and nobody else. That's why happens when you don't diversify from stupid.
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08-07-2024 , 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by smartDFS
that tweet is amazing
It just exudes very stable genius.
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08-07-2024 , 11:04 AM
Trump stumped, can't fathom public service.

Tim Walz's life of service vs Donald Trump - service for no one, except himself.

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08-07-2024 , 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by pocket_zeros
It's clear the Democrats have quite a deep bench of compelling presidential/VP/cabinet candidates, whereas Republicans have Donald Trump and nobody else. That's why happens when you don't diversify from stupid.
With such a deep bench of compelling candidates makes you wonder why they wouldn't want to run a competitive primary to select between them
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08-07-2024 , 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by housenuts
With such a deep bench of compelling candidates makes you wonder why they wouldn't want to run a competitive primary to select between them
Why is how the democrats choose their candidate such a pressing concern for republicans all of a sudden? They could pick a random guy off the street for all you care, it's nobody's business but theirs. Parties are private organisations, as has been explained ITT about 489 times by now.
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