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07-18-2023 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Posts like this are a pretty good indicator:





Tens of millions of people to choose from, and you pick Matthew McConaughy because?? And did you mix up the order, or would it actually be your intent to put MM ahead of MO? And then my final thought would be, I had no idea you were such a big Trump supporter - putting together a popular left/center team is just punching Trump's ticket.
I think he is a dynamic individual (listened to his book) Strikes me as very intellectual and I had him as President and Michelle as VP. He has mentioned political interests as well

I am not a Trump Supporter but not a Biden Supporter as well . I think that if you had the right candidates a No Label Candidate could win and I agree that candidate can not be RFK though he will pull votes from the right as well. Here is a thought if there so concerned about Trump winning run a better candidate

Lets not forget you have Cornel West as well running and he will only pull votes from the left

Last edited by lozen; 07-18-2023 at 01:48 PM.
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07-18-2023 , 01:55 PM
biden is the perfect candidate against trump in a general election.. he's the perfect completely bland alternative to trumps raging lunatic.

third party people are just stupid.
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07-18-2023 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
**** me, if he's at 15-20% closer to the primary I may have to take the risk and max that out.
I'm guessing this is the high water mark unless Biden gets sick or something.
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07-18-2023 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
I think he is a dynamic individual (listened to his book) Strikes me as very intellectual and I had him as President and Michelle as VP. He has mentioned political interests as well
Ah yes, his carefully crafted image is "very intellectual", and he's mentioned political interests. Sounds like a great president!

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I am not a Trump Supporter but not a Biden Supporter as well . I think that if you had the right candidates a No Label Candidate could win
Are you new to US politics? Teddy ****ing Roosevelt couldn't even pull triple digits in the Electoral College.

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Originally Posted by lozen
Here is a thought if there so concerned about Trump winning run a better candidate
You understand there's a whole system there with centuries of history, right? You don't just "run a better candidate" - if the sitting president wants to run for a second term, it's pretty difficult to stop that from happening.

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Originally Posted by lozen
Lets not forget you have Cornel West as well running and he will only pull votes from the left
Like, I don't even...

Let me get this straight. No third party candidate has ever gotten even remotely close to contending for the presidency (excluding realigning elections, one of which hasn't happened for almost 170 years) because the system is completely stacked against them, and you think having not one, but two candidates pulling votes from the left is the way to get this done?

Dude...
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07-18-2023 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
I think that if you had the right candidates a No Label Candidate could win
I am going to be charitable and attribute this view to you being Canadian. There is actually a zero percent chance that any person who would be willing to run as the No Label candidate could win.
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07-18-2023 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
I am going to be charitable and attribute this view to you being Canadian. There is actually a zero percent chance that any person who would be willing to run as the No Label candidate could win.
I mean Ross Perot got like 20% of the vote...and imagine how well he does if he didn't have a French sounding last name...

30 years ago now but stranger things have happened..
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07-18-2023 , 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I mean Ross Perot got like 20% of the vote...and imagine how well he does if he didn't have a French sounding last name...

30 years ago now but stranger things have happened..
And zero electoral college votes, which speaks even more directly to the near impossibility of winning a U.S. presidential election as a third party candidate. No one who heard Ross Perot talk could ever have confused him for a Francophile.

For better or worse, parliamentary democracies are more friendly to new political parties than the U.S. system is, although I would push back on the notion that parliamentary democracies promote centrism, which is what third party advocates in the U.S. claim to want.

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07-18-2023 , 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I mean Ross Perot got like 20% of the vote...and imagine how well he does if he didn't have a French sounding last name...
A little less than 19%, which resulted in...ZERO Electoral College votes, which illustrates the problem very succinctly.
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07-19-2023 , 10:12 AM
Good username imo
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07-23-2023 , 11:17 AM
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07-23-2023 , 11:44 AM
I remember one of the Trump's voters points against biden was his age, and how it was really bad.
Trump will be exactly where Biden was last election age wise, so I take it it's a given that no one will vote for this aging old man from the right, right?
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07-23-2023 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by weeeez
I remember one of the Trump's voters points against biden was his age, and how it was really bad.
Trump will be exactly where Biden was last election age wise, so I take it it's a given that no one will vote for this aging old man from the right, right?

I agree 100% and I’m a conservative. We need someone younger in office and I hope neither Biden nor Trump are presidential candidates in 2024. I will not be voting for Trump in the GOP primary.

However, once the primaries are over if the only two options we have to vote for in the presidential election are Trump/Biden and I think age is a factor then shouldn’t I vote for the younger of the two?
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07-23-2023 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by wsopfinaltable
I agree 100% and I’m a conservative. We need someone younger in office and I hope neither Biden nor Trump are presidential candidates in 2024. I will not be voting for Trump in the GOP primary.

However, once the primaries are over if the only two options we have to vote for in the presidential election are Trump/Biden and I think age is a factor then shouldn’t I vote for the younger of the two?
No.
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07-23-2023 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by weeeez
I remember one of the Trump's voters points against biden was his age, and how it was really bad.
Trump will be exactly where Biden was last election age wise, so I take it it's a given that no one will vote for this aging old man from the right, right?
Yeah but Trump can do press conferences and not shake hands with invisible people and remember Putin didn't invade Iraq.

Age isn't the issue cognitive decline is
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07-23-2023 , 05:50 PM
Only one of them can walk up and down a ramp.

All the best.
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07-23-2023 , 06:35 PM
at this point, I think it would be most entertaining if Hunter were president and Trump Jr was VP. Maybe they switch off every year being president?
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07-23-2023 , 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Only one of them can walk up and down a ramp.

All the best.
Agreed, I don’t recall any time in the last few years where biden has fallen. End of quote, repeat the line.
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07-23-2023 , 10:53 PM
casual Shabbat itt. no yarmulke pinned back, but froggy
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07-30-2023 , 10:33 PM
There is probably something to be said for the state of US politics that the 2 frontrunners for 2024 are octogenarians whose main reason for running may be to keep themselves and family members out of prison.
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07-30-2023 , 10:38 PM
or

a same tcheam succession plan. how f-ing boring is 'worry' about age in 1 servant of the people

and the real and imagined human frailty that you identify
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08-10-2023 , 11:51 AM
the DNC should splice up this Tik Tok into bite size bits for ad placements throughout rural areas of battleground states



dude breaks it down so simply in layman terms
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08-10-2023 , 12:06 PM
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the DNC should splice up this Tik Tok into bite size bits for ad placements throughout rural areas of battleground states



dude breaks it down so simply in layman terms
NO Abortion is a losing cause for the GOP and if they had a brain they would agree to 14 weeks or 15 weeks. If they do we all know the Dems will never agree to that . S o they win either way
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08-10-2023 , 12:25 PM
The republicans cannot compromise on abortion. The most active, or second most, portion of their base believes it is murder. They have fought for something like 50 years to get to this point so they can outlaw it nationally. They're not interested in anything but that. Capitulation from republicans will cost them elections. They're trapped in a prison of their own design.
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08-10-2023 , 12:29 PM
Yeah, pretty much the only play for Republicans on abortion is what they did on Obamacare; slowly stop talking about it at all over the next 10+ years.
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08-10-2023 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by caseIIclosed
The republicans cannot compromise on abortion. The most active, or second most, portion of their base believes it is murder. They have fought for something like 50 years to get to this point so they can outlaw it nationally. They're not interested in anything but that. Capitulation from republicans will cost them elections. They're trapped in a prison of their own design.
Lets say they do compromise and agree to 14 weeks and the safety of the mother. Are the folks that believe its murder going to vote democrat? THe reality is the Democrats may not agree to it as they want no term on abortions.

The reality this the one issue that may cost them in 2024 even with Donald Trump at the helm

The funny thing is here in Canada the provinces control abortion and it varies around 14 weeks and Europe is at 12 weeks I do believe
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