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07-16-2023 , 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
Here is a video. The comments weren't taken out of context at all. To the contrary, he brought up COVID in the context of bioweapons.

https://nypost.com/2023/07/15/rfk-jr...to-spare-jews/

Also, maybe RFK Jr. should avoid attending events hosted by Doug Dechert.

https://pagesix.com/2023/07/12/rfk-j...rds-and-farts/
Ok I'm at a lunch so can't watch, but based on what I read, I was confused why he would claim it disproportionately affected Africans, when Africans were some of the least affected.
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07-16-2023 , 02:59 PM
I do find it amusing the left wing media and Establishment has spent most of the last 3 years pretending the NY Post doesn't exist, as they literally printed hundreds of stories documenting alleged criminal activity by various members of the Biden family, including the President; then when the NY Post posts a single hit piece that fits their preferred narrative, all of a sudden everyone is quoting them as infallible gospel.

Rococo specifically linking a NYPost story as a "source" is delicious irony.
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07-16-2023 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunyain
I do find it amusing the left wing media and Establishment has spent most of the last 3 years pretending the NY Post doesn't exist, as they literally printed hundreds of stories documenting alleged criminal activity by various members of the Biden family, including the President; then when the NY Post posts a single hit piece that fits their preferred narrative, all of a sudden everyone is quoting them as infallible gospel.

Rococo specifically linking a NYPost story as a "source" is delicious irony.
First, I linked the NY Post in this instance because it had the video embedded. Second, what in the world are you talking about? The NY Post has existed since before you were born. No one has ever denied its existence. I'm the guy who had to remind you that the NY Post was part of the MSM, not some sort of upstart check on the MSM. It's a joke for national political news. The opinion page is garbage. It's a tabloid, not a serious newspaper, but as a tabloid, it has a fair bit of coverage about crime and local garbage like this RFK event. I've never claimed otherwise, which is why I have cited it on occasion when discussing something like this RFK event or something crime-related.

Last edited by Rococo; 07-16-2023 at 04:34 PM.
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07-16-2023 , 05:39 PM


Ok now he's doubling down
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07-16-2023 , 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc


Ok now he's doubling down

Those links you post don’t work


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07-16-2023 , 05:42 PM
Working fine for me?
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07-16-2023 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Ok I'm at a lunch so can't watch, but based on what I read, I was confused why he would claim it disproportionately affected Africans, when Africans were some of the least affected.
It's because he's a confused idiot.
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07-16-2023 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Working fine for me?
They work fine for me as well.
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07-16-2023 , 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Ok I'm at a lunch so can't watch, but based on what I read, I was confused why he would claim it disproportionately affected Africans, when Africans were some of the least affected.


--By all accounts he is referring to actual scientific papers which note genetic discrepancies in susceptibility to infeciton/illness. So step 1 is recognizing and acknowledging the actual source material he is referring to. And then we can move onto Step 2/3 and determine whether he is being accurate in his depiction of the source material and finally determining his motives for broaching this topic in the first place.

Also, it should go without saying one should be careful making the leap from controlled in vitro experiment to interpreting population level dynamics. It could very well be true that Africans generally have genetics making them more susceptible to Covid-19 infection AND at the population level Africans as a group had lower morbidity/mortality for various reasons.

Last edited by Dunyain; 07-16-2023 at 11:45 PM.
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07-17-2023 , 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Dunyain


--By all accounts he is referring to actual scientific papers which note genetic discrepancies in susceptibility to infeciton/illness. So step 1 is recognizing and acknowledging the actual source material he is referring to. And then we can move onto Step 2/3 and determine whether he is being accurate in his depiction of the source material and finally determining his motives for broaching this topic in the first place.

Also, it should go without saying one should be careful making the leap from controlled in vitro experiment to interpreting population level dynamics. It could very well be true that Africans generally have genetics making them more susceptible to Covid-19 infection AND at the population level Africans as a group had lower morbidity/mortality for various reasons.
LOL at this defense. His statements about susceptibility, regardless of whether they are correct, are not the main reason he is being criticized. He is being criticized mostly for his baseless speculation that the virus may been deliberately engineered to target certain groups and spare other groups.
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07-17-2023 , 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
LOL at this defense. His statements about susceptibility, regardless of whether they are correct, are not the main reason he is being criticized. He is being criticized mostly for his baseless speculation that the virus may been deliberately engineered to target certain groups and spare other groups.
I was directly answering a question. I wasn't defending anything. I don't view RFK as a serious presidential candidate, or that he ever was. He is getting a lot of exposure/publicity right now through engagement with Musk/Rogan/Peterson, etc., but at the end of the day a candidate with generally Democratic policy positions AND leans heavily into right wing coded conspiracy theories isn't going to get much voter support in an actual general election IMO.
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07-17-2023 , 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Dunyain
I was directly answering a question. I wasn't defending anything. I don't view RFK as a serious presidential candidate, or that he ever was. He is getting a lot of exposure/publicity right now through engagement with Musk/Rogan/Peterson, etc., but at the end of the day a candidate with generally Democratic policy positions AND leans heavily into right wing coded conspiracy theories isn't going to get much voter support in an actual general election IMO.
I was referring to the tweet, not your post. I agree with the bolded.
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07-17-2023 , 10:33 AM
Tough break when you're a raving antisemite and even Kelhus won't support you enthusiastically.
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07-17-2023 , 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Dunyain
I was directly answering a question. I wasn't defending anything. I don't view RFK as a serious presidential candidate, or that he ever was. He is getting a lot of exposure/publicity right now through engagement with Musk/Rogan/Peterson, etc., but at the end of the day a candidate with generally Democratic policy positions AND leans heavily into right wing coded conspiracy theories isn't going to get much voter support in an actual general election IMO.
Yet the one candidate that believes the election is rigged may be the next president and the other guy doesnt know were he is somedays

If RFK is the candidate for the No Labels Party will see how serious a candidate he is .
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07-17-2023 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
If RFK is the candidate for the No Labels Party will see how serious a candidate he is .
If RFK is the candidate for the No Labels Party, it will underscore that the party is a malicious joke.
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07-17-2023 , 12:04 PM
I’m sorry, the man is peddling conspiracy nonsense about a Jewish bioweapon and you’re not sure if he’s a serious candidate or not?
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07-17-2023 , 01:32 PM
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If RFK is the candidate for the No Labels Party, it will underscore that the party is a malicious joke.
I agree and would say the same thing about the Democrats if Joe is the candidate and the GOP if Trump is the candidate
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07-17-2023 , 01:37 PM
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I agree and would say the same thing about the Democrats if Joe is the candidate and the GOP if Trump is the candidate
You said several weeks ago that you thought RFK should be the No Labels candidate. Have you changed your mind?
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07-17-2023 , 01:50 PM
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You said several weeks ago that you thought RFK should be the No Labels candidate. Have you changed your mind?
With some of the stuff he has said I would not make him my choice now. unless no one else better surfaces. Keep in mind No Labels only runs a candidate if its Biden/Trump

I personally do not think Biden will be the dems choice

Though no matter if it is RFK or someone else I think they draw votes from both the GOP and Dems. Cornell West only draws votes from the Dems

I think there will be folks who just cant vote for Biden or Trump but think its important to vote


You know the dems are worried as they are fighting hard to get No Labels off any ballot
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07-17-2023 , 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
With some of the stuff he has said I would not make him my choice now. unless no one else better surfaces. Keep in mind No Labels only runs a candidate if its Biden/Trump

I personally do not think Biden will be the dems choice

Though no matter if it is RFK or someone else I think they draw votes from both the GOP and Dems. Cornell West only draws votes from the Dems

I think there will be folks who just cant vote for Biden or Trump but think its important to vote


You know the dems are worried as they are fighting hard to get No Labels off any ballot
Maybe not in 2020, but in 2016 there were people who voted for Trump who would vote for West today
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07-17-2023 , 01:55 PM
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With some of the stuff he has said I would not make him my choice now.
Are you surprised by anything he has said in the last six months? It all seems to be completely on brand for him.
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07-17-2023 , 02:02 PM
I've always said that RFK is a CIA/conspiracy theory honeypot.

If the plan was always for him to come out and make the anti-vaxxers look like anti-semites I wouldn't be shocked.
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07-17-2023 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I've always said that RFK is a CIA/conspiracy theory honeypot.

If the plan was always for him to come out and make the anti-vaxxers look like anti-semites I wouldn't be shocked.
Plan by who? Is there some reason to believe that RFK is either in on the scheme or under the mind control of some other group.
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07-17-2023 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
Is there some reason to believe that RFK is either in on the scheme or under the mind control of some other group.
Who needs evidence?
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07-17-2023 , 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
Are you surprised by anything he has said in the last six months? It all seems to be completely on brand for him.
He really shouldn't be, because you're absolutely correct that this is all 100% on brand for RFK over the last few years at least. But sadly, lozen pushing a 'media won't cover poor RFK' and 'No Labels Party should run RFK' position for the last month or two in spite of RFK's well-known lunacy is pretty on brand as well.

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Who needs evidence?
The lack of evidence IS the evidence, LDO.
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