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07-05-2024 , 03:05 PM

#3926

housenuts

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Originally Posted by d2_e4

Unfortunately, the fact you don't like it doesn't mean that it didn't happen.

Source?

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07-05-2024 , 03:08 PM

#3927

rickroll

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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp

He probably needed to clear the house first before engaging in them.
His done that, table is set.
And now is got full immunity thx to his friend on the SC.
Project2025 with all his associate in it are coming.

At least once it happens I guess you will gladly agree , “well he did it.”
But unfortunately at that point it is to late .

But now if u can’t see how his prior intentions and actions are fascist , well fine….
It’s ok to be blinded.

i don't see any fascist laws nor policies in this post

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07-05-2024 , 03:13 PM

#3928

d2_e4

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Quote:

Originally Posted by housenuts

Source?

Here you go:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...nuary_6_Attack

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Recommended charges for Trump were obstruction of an official proceeding; conspiracy to defraud the United States; conspiracy to make a false statement; and attempts to "incite", "assist" or "aid or comfort" an insurrection.

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07-05-2024 , 03:14 PM

#3929

housenuts

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Originally Posted by d2_e4

I'm sure you can read through the Jan 6th committee findings yourself if you're interested.

I could also read through the Warren Commission report on JFK assassination if I wanted to as well.

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07-05-2024 , 03:17 PM

#3930

d2_e4

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Originally Posted by housenuts

I could also read through the Warren Commission report on JFK assassination if I wanted to as well.

What's your point?

I've edited my post to quote the findings relevant to your question. I assume the question was in good faith and now that you've been provided the source, you'll of course concede the truth of the assertion, right?

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07-05-2024 , 03:18 PM

#3931

Trolly McTrollson

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Some bold claims being made in the last 2-3 posts.

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07-05-2024 , 03:19 PM

#3932

Willd

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Originally Posted by rickroll

i don't see any fascist laws nor policies in this post

You do realise the original claim you were disputing was that the Republican party was becoming more fascistic right? I don't think anyone has actually claimed that he enacted fascistic policies in the first term - the main blatantly authoritarian thing he did was rejecting the election results. What the main claims actually are are that the rhetoric is continuing to move further in that direction; moves in red states to make it easier to prevent the smooth transision of power since 2020 align with that rhetoric; and that the 2025 project contains the seeds of a fundamentalist Christian theocracy.

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07-05-2024 , 03:28 PM

#3933

rickroll

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Originally Posted by Willd

people throw around the word fascist a lot and are whenever pressed are never once able to point to a single fascist law or policy they've enacted

it's half ignorance over what fascism actually is and it's half needless fear mongering - the new version of moving to canada

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07-05-2024 , 03:30 PM

#3934

Trolly McTrollson

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Originally Posted by rickroll

people throw around the word fascist a lot and are whenever pressed are never once able to point to a single fascist law or policy they've enacted

Patriot Act.

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07-05-2024 , 03:30 PM

#3935

d2_e4

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Originally Posted by rickroll

If they said "right wing authoritarian" instead of "fascist" would this help with your blind spot?

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07-05-2024 , 03:31 PM

#3936

PointlessWords

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He murdered an American via military strike without any type of trial.

Doesn’t get worse than that

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07-05-2024 , 03:48 PM

#3937

Willd

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Originally Posted by rickroll

Sure, but you're arguing against something that was never claimed. If you want to make that point then ask about what they actually said, i.e. what is happening that you think makes them seem like they're moving towards being more fascist. Asking about the past when people are talking about current rhetoric and the direction it's moving in is not making any sort of useful point.

Edit: You actually started by asking a reasonable question - "what specific fascist policies are they trying to implement" - but then pivoted to asking about the past when you got an actual answer rather than responding to the answer you were given.

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07-05-2024 , 03:52 PM

#3938

BOIDS

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tbf the jan 6 stuff was chapter one paragraph one fascism

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07-05-2024 , 04:19 PM

#3939

housenuts

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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp

What war did Biden start ?

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07-05-2024 , 04:20 PM

#3940

Montrealcorp

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Originally Posted by rickroll

i don't see any fascist laws nor policies in this post

Yes I just said the table wasn’t set in his 1st term to enabling fascism policies .
But hey a full immune president will help get you there (him putting his pawns up) .
So no worry your wish is about to happen .

Last edited by Montrealcorp; 07-05-2024 at 04:25 PM.

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07-05-2024 , 04:23 PM

#3941

Trolly McTrollson

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Originally Posted by housenuts

So that's zero wars started by Biden.

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07-05-2024 , 04:23 PM

#3942

Montrealcorp

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Originally Posted by housenuts

Ah ok, i thought u mean his presidency .
Well Biden wasn’t president before but u can put it all on him.
Mind as well put the entire political members in there 2.
I agree US been many times a warmonger country for a very long time.
And since its citizen are the one electing them on there , it’s a bit funny citizen after came back and do not include themselves to be warmongering shrug.

Last edited by Montrealcorp; 07-05-2024 at 04:30 PM.

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07-05-2024 , 04:23 PM

#3943

Montrealcorp

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

So that's zero wars started by Biden.

Exactly

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07-05-2024 , 04:26 PM

#3944

Montrealcorp

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Originally Posted by housenuts

I don't like this claim, but I guess everyone has their own definition of what inciting means

We can draw up his speech again if u like ?

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07-05-2024 , 04:29 PM

#3945

housenuts

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

So that's zero wars started by Biden.

not sure why you quoted my post. it was montrealcorp's question what wars biden has started, not mine.

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07-05-2024 , 04:32 PM

#3946

d2_e4

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Originally Posted by housenuts

not sure why you quoted my post. it was montrealcorp's question what wars biden has started, not mine.

Since you're such a curious little kitten who just ignores answers he doesn't like here, why don't you ask your AI friend about the insurrection Trump started as well.

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07-05-2024 , 04:32 PM

#3947

Trolly McTrollson

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Originally Posted by housenuts

not sure why you quoted my post.

I don't know why I bother at all sometimes.

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07-05-2024 , 04:33 PM

#3948

housenuts

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Montrealcorp

We can draw up his speech again if u like ?

here you go

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07-05-2024 , 04:36 PM

#3949

housenuts

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Originally Posted by d2_e4

Since you're such a curious little kitten who just ignores answers he doesn't like here, why don't you ask your AI friend about the insurrection Trump started as well.

what are you talking about?

i said he's a warmonger. he supports all wars. i never said he started any. montrealcorp asked that specific question for some reason.

AI friend seems to show he has been a key supporter of many. it also doesn't include Ukraine yet, but yes, Biden did start America's involvement/resources in that. Arguably was responsible for the whole war starting anyways.

See my last post from AI friend about insurrection. You can try too: venice.ai

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07-05-2024 , 04:37 PM

#3950

Montrealcorp

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Originally Posted by housenuts

not sure why you quoted my post. it was montrealcorp's question what wars biden has started, not mine.

Well I learn something today about Biden by himself started a war while not even being president …..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Po...dential%20veto.

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The President has the right to sign or veto congressional acts, such as a declaration of war,

I wonder why he didn’t again when he was president himself ?