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05-24-2023 , 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by iwasbanned
Sen Fetterman is a humanitarian and Ron Desantis is a facist, so 100% yes.
this is sad
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05-24-2023 , 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by wreckem713
Would the Dems ITT vote for Fetterman over DeSantis?
is this some really terrible attempt at some kind of gotcha?

i'm guessing yes, most democrats would vote for a democrat over a bigot autocrat-wannabe.
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05-24-2023 , 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
is this some really terrible attempt at some kind of gotcha?

i'm guessing yes, most democrats would vote for a democrat over a bigot autocrat-wannabe.
Figured people would prefer to have someone that isn't a shell of a human. I guess I was silly to assume the poker community would be against a guy that dresses like a misreg
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05-24-2023 , 10:16 PM
Desantis
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05-24-2023 , 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by wreckem713
Would the Dems ITT vote for Fetterman over DeSantis?
I'm probably your most conservative Biden voter here. There's legitimate downside sceanrios to trump or DeSantis that their base either doesn't understand or isn't against. There would be a big difference with someone like a Romney v trump or DeSantis.
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05-24-2023 , 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by wreckem713
Would the Dems ITT vote for Fetterman over DeSantis?
It's a little telling when one of your main arguments is "Our candidates are healthier than the other party's candidates!"
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05-24-2023 , 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
It's a little telling when one of your main arguments is "Our candidates are healthier than the other party's candidates!"
Comical response from you. Considering it's one of the most demanding and stressful jobs, being in good health should be a factor. Thought this went without saying but I will admit I have learned a lot from some of the Dem responses ITT.
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05-24-2023 , 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
It's a little telling when one of your main arguments is "Our candidates are healthier than the other party's candidates!"
I think even conservatives get how unpopular conservatism is. Hence the wokness obsession and ignoring stuff like healthcare, economic issues and even abortion now.
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05-24-2023 , 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ecriture d'adulte
I think even conservatives get how unpopular conservatism is. Hence the wokness obsession and ignoring stuff like healthcare, economic issues and even abortion now.
-We didn't really care about woke until it penetrated schools and institutions (conservatives love their kids and don't want them sexualized or castrated)

-Biden hasn't done anything to overhaul healthcare so I don't follow you. Do you have any (viable) solutions?

-How has Biden improved economic conditions in any way since taking office?

-Abortion is obviously wrong. I personally don't think early abortions should be illegal but don't think they should be subsidized in any way.
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05-25-2023 , 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by wreckem713
-We didn't really care about woke until it penetrated schools and institutions (conservatives love their kids and don't want them sexualized or castrated)
Non college whites have been tricked into thinking this is real like they were with fake covid cures and antivaxism. But it's just not on the radar for anybody else.

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-Biden hasn't done anything to overhaul healthcare so I don't follow you. Do you have any (viable) solutions?
Obviously expand Medicaid as per the ACA. Florida is one of the few states that hasn't done that so they have some of the worst healthcare results in the nation. Trump actually tried to repeal the ACA with a bill that had the lowest approval of any national bill ever polled. So republicans obliviously can't talk about healthcare given how toxic their policies are.

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-Abortion is obviously wrong. I personally don't think early abortions should be illegal but don't think they should be subsidized in any way.
Republicans can't really say they are against a national ban on abortion because of their religious cult base, but they can't clearly say they are for it either because 65% don't want one. Republicans have this problem over and over again because of their extremism.

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05-25-2023 , 10:50 AM
there are no popular republican policies. we've been over this several times. they barely can sell their **** to their own base. which is why, like said above, they have had to pivot to this insane culture war **** and racism/xenophobia to keep people on the hook.
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05-25-2023 , 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
there are no popular republican policies. we've been over this several times. they barely can sell their **** to their own base. which is why, like said above, they have had to pivot to this insane culture war **** and racism/xenophobia to keep people on the hook.
How are Republicans racist again? Seems to be a fabrication of the do-nothing-democrats
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05-25-2023 , 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by wreckem713
Comical response from you. Considering it's one of the most demanding and stressful jobs, being in good health should be a factor. Thought this went without saying but I will admit I have learned a lot from some of the Dem responses ITT.
Comical response from me?

Should I assume that health is your main criteria when voting? If Biden dies tomorrow and Kamala ends up running against Trump, should I assume that you will seriously entertain voting for Kamala on the theory that she is younger, and almost certainly in better overall health, than Trump?

Obama was younger, and almost certainly healthier, than McCain in 2008. Was that a big factor you when you were deciding how to vote in 2008?
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05-25-2023 , 12:16 PM
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there are no popular republican policies. we've been over this several times. they barely can sell their **** to their own base. which is why, like said above, they have had to pivot to this insane culture war **** and racism/xenophobia to keep people on the hook.
Secure Border
Energy Independence
Not giving $20,000 to folks that accumulate student debt

Yes and the Dems have so many African American in the Senate and Congress . Defund the police is a racist policy as well

Reality is you can be on the left paint your whole body black and stuff a banana in your pants and dance around like a monkey and you will not be labeled a racist and get elected.

Neither party cares about the average american they just care about power
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05-25-2023 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
Comical response from me?

Should I assume that health is your main criteria when voting? If Biden dies tomorrow and Kamala ends up running against Trump, should I assume that you will seriously entertain voting for Kamala on the theory that she is younger, and almost certainly in better overall health, than Trump?

Obama was younger, and almost certainly healthier, than McCain in 2008. Was that a big factor you when you were deciding how to vote in 2008?
McCain, it was definitely a factor. Also, I was a young and ignorant Dem at that point in my life. Definitely going with Trump over Kamala though. I'd take 20th-century Biden over Trump.
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05-25-2023 , 12:21 PM
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Secure Border
Energy Independence
Not giving $20,000 to folks that accumulate student debt

Yes and the Dems have so many African American in the Senate and Congress . Defund the police is a racist policy as well

Reality is you can be on the left paint your whole body black and stuff a banana in your pants and dance around like a monkey and you will not be labeled a racist and get elected.

Neither party cares about the average american they just care about power
you mean this?

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05-25-2023 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Secure Border
Energy Independence
These two things are goals, not policies.

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Not giving $20,000 to folks that accumulate student debt
I guess this is a policy. I also am skeptical of the overall popularity of loan forgiveness. Biden is too, which is why he slow-walked this and didn't agree to nearly as much loan forgiveness as proponents were hoping for.

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Yes and the Dems have so many African American in the Senate and Congress.
Huh?

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Reality is you can be on the left paint your whole body black and stuff a banana in your pants and dance around like a monkey and you will not be labeled a racist and get elected.
This is laughable. Do you think that liberals gave other liberals a pass on #metoo stuff? I certainly don't. Many people who went down in flames over #metoo allegations were, for better or worse, prominent political liberals.
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05-25-2023 , 12:43 PM
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These two things are goals, not policies.



I guess this is a policy. I also am skeptical of the overall popularity of loan forgiveness. Biden is too, which is why he slow-walked this and didn't agree to nearly as much loan forgiveness as proponents were hoping for.



Huh?



This is laughable. Do you think that liberals gave other liberals a pass on #metoo stuff? I certainly don't. Many people who went down in flames over #metoo allegations were, for better or worse, prominent political liberals.
The liberals were idiots to remove Al Franken. Stuck with Clinton
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05-25-2023 , 12:50 PM
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The liberals were idiots to remove Al Franken. Stuck with Clinton
This is the part I don't understand. Your post above is a variation on "LOL liberals eating their own", which is definitely something I heard from conservatives in connection with #metoo.

But on the other hand, you claimed in your other post that liberals could do the most racist things imaginable with no blowback from other liberals.

Do liberals eat their own on social issues or not?
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05-25-2023 , 01:09 PM
Kind of depends on the alt-right messaging he is fed and passively consumes at the time that he repeats here. The people creating that messaging make no effort to have a long term consistent narrative, because why should they bother?
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05-25-2023 , 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
This is the part I don't understand. Your post above is a variation on "LOL liberals eating their own", which is definitely something I heard from conservatives in connection with #metoo.

But on the other hand, you claimed in your other post that liberals could do the most racist things imaginable with no blowback from other liberals.

Do liberals eat their own on social issues or not?
I get tired of this Conservatives are racists when the reality is that many liberal policies are racist themselves. Trumps a racist for putting folks in cages yet those cages were built under Obama's presidency and still being used. Trumps a racist for not allowing folks in from certain countries during Covid. Biden does the same thing . Defund the police is the most racist policy there is at effects more African American areas than gated communities.

I personally believe most folks left and right do not care about race but would agree someone that is blatantly racist will vote GOP .

As for your question do liberals eat their own on social issues ? Yes I can see both parties doing it

Hey please tell me a policy the liberals/Dems stand for?
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05-25-2023 , 01:14 PM
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I get tired of this Conservatives are racists when the reality is that many liberal policies are racist themselves. Trumps a racist for putting folks in cages yet those cages were built under Obama's presidency and still being used. Trumps a racist for not allowing folks in from certain countries during Covid. Biden does the same thing . Defund the police is the most racist policy there is at effects more African American areas than gated communities.

I personally believe most folks left and right do not care about race but would agree someone that is blatantly racist will vote GOP .

As for your question do liberals eat their own on social issues ? Yes I can see both parties doing it

Hey please tell me a policy the liberals/Dems stand for?
So a black racist against whites will vote GOP? Interesting
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05-25-2023 , 01:28 PM
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Hey please tell me a policy the liberals/Dems stand for?
Is this some sort of trick? Liberals aren't monolithic, but broadly speaking:

Continuation of the Affordable Care Act, or at least a public option
Legalization of marijuana
More progressive taxation than Republicans support
Statutorily or constitutionally protected access to abortion, at least until viability
A million other things

It would be easy also to come up with a similar list for conservatives.
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05-25-2023 , 01:35 PM
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So a black racist against whites will vote GOP? Interesting
Not all conservatives are racist . Most racists are Conservative though
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05-25-2023 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
Is this some sort of trick? Liberals aren't monolithic, but broadly speaking:

Continuation of the Affordable Care Act, or at least a public option
Legalization of marijuana
More progressive taxation than Republicans support
Statutorily or constitutionally protected access to abortion, at least until viability
A million other things

It would be easy also to come up with a similar list for conservatives.
I would disagree with you Gavin Newsom ran and promised Universal Healthcare for California and had all the majorities to get it done but got bought out and never did it
No I have yet to hear a democratic candidate for President say I am for legalizing pot. That is were Justin Trudeau deserves the praise for actually doing it in Canada
Agreed on the taxation
I do believe Obama promised that as the first thing he would do when elected President is codify Roe v Wade Hmm I don't remember that happening
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